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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:49 am 
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Are you using "cancelled" tongue-in-cheek? Or is firing people for sexual harrassment suddenly an issue nowadays?

It's perfectly normal that sexual is punished more immediately and harshly than other types of harrassment, which can be dealt with internally with a reprimand and some observation period. It's nothing to envy to the days before "the world we live in today".

Dunno. 20 years ago you could slap your secretary on the ass and get away with it, today you can get punished for harrassment for giving her a kiss on the cheek at the Christmas party.

But before we discuss todays ethics, let´s first wait and hear what Horner is actually being accused of.


Agree to wait for the particular case of Horner, for sure.

But about being punished for kissing someone on the cheek (or generally being targeted as an innocent man by false accusations): this is only an irrational fear of internet incels and the new Tate kingdom followers.

In real life, men who are respectful, tactful, and have a deep understanding and respect for other people's boundaries, don't live with that fear. Unless they're already a jackass pushing people's (and womens') buttons, there is no way such rumours ever take traction on them in any serious organisation. Real men don't go about crying and complaining that they may be falsely accused, because they don't lead a life or a behaviour that lends itself to that, and certainly not in the fucking workplace. It's our responsibility as men to not let that doubt seep into our lives, remain confident in our principles of respect, and stop fueling the incel life philosophy by being the same crybaby these guys are.


Normally on the whole I agree with you. But you ever work in a modern office? False acussations of all sorts against "good people" (not just men) happen far more often than you think.


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I like Sauber's livery. We need bright colors. In recent years the grid has become so monochrome it's borderline depressive (not to mention confusing for both viewers and commentators).
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webbsy wrote:
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Dunno. 20 years ago you could slap your secretary on the ass and get away with it, today you can get punished for harrassment for giving her a kiss on the cheek at the Christmas party.

But before we discuss todays ethics, let´s first wait and hear what Horner is actually being accused of.


Agree to wait for the particular case of Horner, for sure.

But about being punished for kissing someone on the cheek (or generally being targeted as an innocent man by false accusations): this is only an irrational fear of internet incels and the new Tate kingdom followers.

In real life, men who are respectful, tactful, and have a deep understanding and respect for other people's boundaries, don't live with that fear. Unless they're already a jackass pushing people's (and womens') buttons, there is no way such rumours ever take traction on them in any serious organisation. Real men don't go about crying and complaining that they may be falsely accused, because they don't lead a life or a behaviour that lends itself to that, and certainly not in the fucking workplace. It's our responsibility as men to not let that doubt seep into our lives, remain confident in our principles of respect, and stop fueling the incel life philosophy by being the same crybaby these guys are.


Normally on the whole I agree with you. But you ever work in a modern office? False acussations of all sorts against "good people" (not just men) happen far more often than you think.



I heard one quote few days ago.
The difference between flirting and harassment is the level of attractiveness of the person.
(nowadays if somebody sees a reason or chance to use it to get any money and exposure it's harassment for sure)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:18 pm 
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JJ wrote:
I like Sauber's livery. We need bright colors. In recent years the grid has become so monochrome it's borderline depressive (not to mention confusing for both viewers and commentators).
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I found it ugly. Looks like a generic gamer hardware, or a backmarker in a LMP2 race. But it is quite a distinctive one, and for this reason I like it, at least for now.


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So far we've had a black-and-red car, a black-and-blue car, and a black-and-green car. Exposed carbon fibre for the win, it seems...


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Sauber have my kind of colours. I always liked black with green. That's why I've been always a big fan of Monster Energy teams and sponsors

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This dude is Married to Ginger Spice, don't

1990s me had the spice girls poster on my bedroom wall and cannot comprehend ever needing another woman considering she is the most desired woman in the 1990s world

WTF man, you had it allllll! 8O


I believe that she's more attractive now than in the 90's but that might be just me

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Horner has a hearing on Friday


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JJ wrote:
I like Sauber's livery. We need bright colors. In recent years the grid has become so monochrome it's borderline depressive (not to mention confusing for both viewers and commentators).
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Looks like one of their mechanics dumped the entire year's quota of flow-viz onto the car.


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I guess they planned to put RGB on the livery (because everybody knows that RGB increases frames), but Formula E complained that the Sauber would have more leds than their cars

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I think I found my birthday present.
https://www.lego.com/en-au/product/mcla ... af6pd83cCs


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Apparantly there's some issue with Stake as they have no licence in certain countries.

https://racingnews365.com/stake-respond ... -team-name


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Apparantly there's some issue with Stake as they have no licence in certain countries.

https://racingnews365.com/stake-respond ... -team-name


Its a gambling site so not allowed in some countries. So they'll run as Kick in those.
Why not just run as Kick then for the whole season and only have Stake on the car as a sponsor in places where it is allowed. Do they just want to confuse everybody?


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Oh look, another black one (with hints of pink and blue):
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/alpi ... /10573363/

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Booooooooooooooring. :tired:


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So, what do we expect?
Visa = bit like Williams with blue-and-black
Aston = green-and-black
Ferrari = red-and-black
Mercedes = black-and-black
McLaren = already know, orange-and-black
Red Bull = PLEASE FOR GOD SAKE STAY AWAY FROM BLACK!


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This dude is Married to Ginger Spice, don't

1990s me had the spice girls poster on my bedroom wall and cannot comprehend ever needing another woman considering she is the most desired woman in the 1990s world

WTF man, you had it allllll! 8O
Yeah, I had the Playboy issue and all and she was easily my favorite! They are still a guilty pleasure band for me.

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Omega wrote:
Meanwhile, Williams and Sauber have revealed their livery.

After a black with orange McLaren and a black with gold HAAS, we now also have a black with dark blue Williams and a black with ugly green Sauber.

The pink Alpine is going to be the only visible car during the first night races.

Seems like I was wrong with the Alpine


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I think I found my birthday present.
https://www.lego.com/en-au/product/mcla ... af6pd83cCs
I was feeling it too, but there's something about the nose that just isn't right, even by Lego standards.

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