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2016 FORMULA 1 RUSSIAN GRAND PRIX

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2014 - Nico Rosberg locks everything into the first corner and hands an easy win to Lewis Hamilton

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Friday 29 April – Sunday 01 May 2016

Practice 1 Friday 10:00 – 11:30
Practice 2 Friday 14:00 – 15:30
Practice 3 Saturday 12:00 – 13:00
Qualifying Saturday 15:00 – 16:00
Race Sunday 15:00 – 17:00

It'll be the first race to be held in the May 1st since the 1994 San Marino GP

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No rain, but thankfully I'll miss this race.


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After the first race I was ready to demolish the whole circuit, but last year the race was surprisingly entertaining. But frankly, I don't expect anything special given the sunny conditions. Sadly, no GP2 or GP3 to provide additional action :(

I'd rather have San Marino GP to start the European round. What an idyllic track. Proper circuit needs to have forest, rivers, hills, gravel and grass. Sochi has all those things, but 20km away the track.


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Red Bull will test there cockpit canopy during FP1.

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I hope it looks cool.


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After the first race I was ready to demolish the whole circuit, but last year the race was surprisingly entertaining. But frankly, I don't expect anything special given the sunny conditions. Sadly, no GP2 or GP3 to provide additional action :(

I'd rather have San Marino GP to start the European round. What an idyllic track. Proper circuit needs to have forest, rivers, hills, gravel and grass. Sochi has all those things, but 20km away the track.


Imola was such an overrated track after 1995 and still is. Overtaking was impossible and the races were single file trains.

Before that, it was an epic track.


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StefMeister wrote:
Red Bull will test there cockpit canopy during FP1.

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This looks awesome.


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it looks great and that's why they'll not adopt it

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It looks better than the Halo but i'm still not fond of it.

I get the safety arguments & i'm all for improved safety but I just kinda like open cockpit racing & while i'm sure i'd get used to whatever solution they went with but..... I don't know there's just a big part of me that would prefer it to stay fully open cockpit like it is now because to me thats what this type of racing is/should be about.


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StefMeister wrote:
It looks better than the Halo but i'm still not fond of it.

I get the safety arguments & i'm all for improved safety but I just kinda like open cockpit racing & while i'm sure i'd get used to whatever solution they went with but..... I don't know there's just a big part of me that would prefer it to stay fully open cockpit like it is now because to me thats what this type of racing is/should be about.



Like the more open cockpits they used to have. I did like those because you could see more of the driver but safety trumps that.


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LucasWheldon wrote:
it looks great and that's why they'll not adopt it


Even Charlie was saying in public that the canopy looks better than the halo, so as long as it does the job it needs to, I think they'll choose the canopy.

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It sure looks slick but how does this works with visibility when it rains?
Windscreen wiper mechanism?

So will this device reduce the head movement by wind? because i guess it will he pretty wind silent in the cockpit now with that canopy.
Not that it is important because we couldn't see the driver almost anyway.


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A Wiper or a shitload of Rain-X


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StefMeister wrote:
It looks better than the Halo but i'm still not fond of it.

I get the safety arguments & i'm all for improved safety but I just kinda like open cockpit racing & while i'm sure i'd get used to whatever solution they went with but..... I don't know there's just a big part of me that would prefer it to stay fully open cockpit like it is now because to me thats what this type of racing is/should be about.


Safety marches on, but make no mistake, this is the beginning of the end of open cockpit, open wheel racing.

Gradually there'll be questions as to why we cover the driver but leave the wheels exposed. Then the canopy will become a full cockpit and the wheels will get guarded and boom, we might as well be a sub class of WEC racing.

That's progress, there's no turning back now.
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It sure looks slick but how does this works with visibility when it rains?
Windscreen wiper mechanism?

So will this device reduce the head movement by wind? because i guess it will he pretty wind silent in the cockpit now with that canopy.
Not that it is important because we couldn't see the driver almost anyway.


This is formula 1, I'm sure the drivers won't have any problem operating their cars with a misty windscreen under safety car or red flag conditions.

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Looks like it'll create some aero challenges too, not to mention the inlet to the airbox is going to be working in quite a low dynamic pressure region with that design, thankfully turbo reduces how critical that is. Wouldn't be surprised to see some rather obvious rear end changes to the cars next season, rules allowing.


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So umm...don't they have 1 more day to decide on what they will use next year? The Halo or the canopy? Because by hook or by crook they will have something for next year right?, and the rules are supposed to be agreed upon on the 30th?

I have the same position as StefMeister, but that solution is way better than Ferrari's solution, and if done properly can be molded and integrated into the chassis becoming less bulbous and more pleasing on the eye.


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codename_47 wrote:
StefMeister wrote:
It looks better than the Halo but i'm still not fond of it.

I get the safety arguments & i'm all for improved safety but I just kinda like open cockpit racing & while i'm sure i'd get used to whatever solution they went with but..... I don't know there's just a big part of me that would prefer it to stay fully open cockpit like it is now because to me thats what this type of racing is/should be about.


Safety marches on, but make no mistake, this is the beginning of the end of open cockpit, open wheel racing.

Gradually there'll be questions as to why we cover the driver but leave the wheels exposed. Then the canopy will become a full cockpit and the wheels will get guarded and boom, we might as well be a sub class of WEC racing.

That's progress, there's no turning back now.
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It sure looks slick but how does this works with visibility when it rains?
Windscreen wiper mechanism?

So will this device reduce the head movement by wind? because i guess it will he pretty wind silent in the cockpit now with that canopy.
Not that it is important because we couldn't see the driver almost anyway.


This is formula 1, I'm sure the drivers won't have any problem operating their cars with a misty windscreen under safety car or red flag conditions.

Where do I sign? You took the words of my mouth.

Now seriously, the visibility thing really may produce that scenario, no wet races at all anymore! It's hard, for a die-hard F1 fan like me, to see the ways the series are taking into! I can recall, when I started following the races at the end of 80's and early 90's, drivers would respect yellows much more, resulting in marshalls working completelly calm, in the middle of the cars running, even in tracks like Monte Carlo and Montreal, we had no speed limit in the pitlane, there was no SC and the races rarely would be red flagged. Now, decades later, we see SC periods by any car that's stuck on a runoff area, there are red flags everytime the rain demands the full wet compounds, even with much safer cars, speed limit in the pitlane, much better trainning for marshalls. One of the problems of course, is how the drivers sometimes completelly ignores what a yellow flag means.
Anyway, this overracting about safety, is creating an artificial F1. Even some drivers like Hamilton and Hulkenberg already complained, that taking off all the risks, means to destroy much of the racing essence. Of course the safety of those who make the show have to be taken seriously, but there's a limit for everything, even for safety! But that's how you just said @
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, it's probably a point of no return.

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Probably a dumb question, but how is raindrops on a canopy like that RB one any different than raindrops on a helmet visor? Whatever teams are doing currently to deal with rain is probably what they'll do with a canopy like this. It's not like they're using tear offs or wiping it off with their hands every 10 seconds or something.

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