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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:57 am 
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They need more Coke


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Soul Reaver wrote:
They need more Coke


If we're going to be served up more races like Australia, we all will... ;)

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StefMeister wrote:
Nurburgring's out:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/03/1 ... 2I20150319

So unless someone with a brain comes in & starts banging heads together in order to sort out a deal there's no German Gp this year.

already pointed that on Monday ;)
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=9013&start=1760#p836950

And, in a not very long time, somebody will be posting : "RIP F1 in Germany"

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Australia GP
RTL
2014: 3,12 Million viewers
2015: 1,72 M.
Sky Germany
2014: 0,26 M
2015: 0,18 M

When Alonso leaves and if Sainzs doesn't live up to it, then the same for Spain:
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Spain (live race)
2014
'Fórmula 1' "GP de Australia" (Inicio de temporada): 1.438.000 y 59%
2015
'Fórmula 1' "GP de Australia": 343.000 y 36,6%


F1 tv ratings are free, free falling...... :twisted:


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Artur Craft wrote:
StefMeister wrote:
Nurburgring's out:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/03/1 ... 2I20150319

So unless someone with a brain comes in & starts banging heads together in order to sort out a deal there's no German Gp this year.

already pointed that on Monday ;)
http://tbk-light.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.p ... 60#p836950

And, in a not very long time, somebody will be posting : "RIP F1 in Germany"

Quote:
Australia GP
RTL
2014: 3,12 Million viewers
2015: 1,72 M.
Sky Germany
2014: 0,26 M
2015: 0,18 M

When Alonso leaves and if Sainzs doesn't live up to it, then the same for Spain:
Quote:
Spain (live race)
2014
'Fórmula 1' "GP de Australia" (Inicio de temporada): 1.438.000 y 59%
2015
'Fórmula 1' "GP de Australia": 343.000 y 36,6%


F1 tv ratings are free, free falling...... :twisted:



Holy shit! The drop in percentage is huge! Yet FIA is doing nothing to fix their issues. :slaphead:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:16 am 
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What is the viewership for Formula E


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:43 am 
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They reported 56m viewers in total for the last race, but I have no idea how that breaks down over the various broadcasters.


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Show race (only race) live on YouTube. Guaranteed millions of viewers.

The main problem is not that F1 is losing old viewers but that it won't get new viewers. How can 5-15 years old become exposed to Formula 1 nowadays? Accidentally seeing it on TV? Nope, no FTA channels. Seeing it on the net? Well, he may come across some crash clips but even those get removed quickly. And I don't think seeing Bianchi injured will get a 10-year-old to want his parents to buy him Sky Sports package.
And even if kid's dad watched F1, the kid has hundreds of more things to do with his smartphone or tablet. When we were young there were less distractors, so what we did: we just sought entertainment from TV.


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It should be easily available for all to watch. As JJ said, parents wont splash out cash for a kid to watch F1. That's a problem
Ticket prices should be available to the average Joe. Hockenheim couldn't take over the race because the time was too short to sell enough tickets to at least break even on the fee they have to pay to Bernie & co. An average parent cannot afford to take his kid to see a race. Thats a problem.

Having 15 cars start a race of something that claims to be the pinnacle of racing is a problem.

Also as JJ said, kids are too pre-occupied with their smartphones. Instead of asking a fortune for your app, ask a small fee (99cents) and offer interesting things on it so kids will be looking at these features during the race instead of snapchatting their friends.

They should invest in more apps. That Motorsport Manager, mentioned in the general gaming topic should receive an official FIA license free of charge. Let them rise tru the ranks of real FIA series.

The current decline in ratings also means the value of ad space will drop like flies. And that means teams like Sauber will have to contract 8 drivers instead of 4 to survive.

gaining new fans isn't done by being a snobby, Rolex wearing, elitist.


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mclaren2008 wrote:
What is the viewership for Formula E
Not great, in the UK at least:

https://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/20 ... 5-million/
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Formula E’s underperformed on ITV4 for round five of its championship from Miami. Live coverage of the race from 19:00 to 21:30 on Saturday averaged 150k (0.7%), peaking with 269k (1.3%) at 20:45. Highlights the following day averaged 71k (0.9%). Both numbers were below the respective slot averages for ITV4.


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Artur Craft wrote:
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Australia GP
RTL
2014: 3,12 Million viewers
2015: 1,72 M.
Sky Germany
2014: 0,26 M
2015: 0,18 M

When Alonso leaves and if Sainzs doesn't live up to it, then the same for Spain:
Quote:
Spain (live race)
2014
'Fórmula 1' "GP de Australia" (Inicio de temporada): 1.438.000 y 59%
2015
'Fórmula 1' "GP de Australia": 343.000 y 36,6%


F1 tv ratings are free, free falling...... :twisted:


None of this should really be a surprise. Spain never embraced F1 until Alonso started performing well. Germany's figures went into free fall when Schumi retired (in 2006). Even during Vettel's 4 year winning period the ratings weren't as high as previously.

Then add in the ongoing negative publicity campaign by a lot of leading figures within F1. Nobody in the past 12-18 months has stepped up to champion or be an evangelist for F1. 2014 was an incredible season in terms of racing and drama. Yet here we are and we feel the negativity, some have embraced the negativity to a point where they can't find anything positive to say about the sport.

So with all this in mind, and ignoring the fact that pay-to-view seems another big reason for people not to watch, is it really a surprise viewing figures have dropped? Hardly.

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Low averages for the specific block, i.e. prime time on a Saturday evening, but not undererforming in relation to btcc etc.


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Scotty wrote:
What are they supposed to do? Change the race format? Introduce shortcuts?


They don't have to do anything. F1 has clearly indicated that they are more interested in schmoozing rich dictators and oligarchs who want a "spectacular show" vs. courting the people in countries that actually give a darn about racing fast cars.

The ratings decline probably reflects F1 leaning so heavily on pay TV these days more than anything else. Penny wise and pound foolish if you ask me. It eeks more money out of the older fans with disposable income, but does nothing for attracting fresh faces to the sport. But, as I said, F1 has shown they are clearly not interested in that market.


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figures in Brazil increased a bit but it was because it started a hour earlier

and the broadcast was the pure pile of shit, even worser than the race itself

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They should lay bad bumpy tarmac on the racing line, and smooth asfalt off line. That way the driver has to choose between smooth driving but slower, or fast and bumpy. Multiple race lines possible!

And have one or two years of free, "do whatever you want" technical rules, to encourage the development of new ideas. Like it is now, we'll never get a surprise with six wheels or skirts or a vacuum cleaner again.


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This sport survived and thrived just fine for 60 odd years before they started fucking with the cars to improve the show.

Simplicity is what is needed. Throw out all this hybrid horseshit and get back to the business of Formula 1. Brave drivers racing fast cars at ridiculous speeds. The rules, and indeed the whole series, is too convoluted for an average fan to watch or care about.


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westracing01 wrote:
This sport survived and thrived just fine for 60 odd years before they started fucking with the cars to improve the show.

Simplicity is what is needed. Throw out all this hybrid horseshit and get back to the business of Formula 1. Brave drivers racing fast cars at ridiculous speeds. The rules, and indeed the whole series, is too convoluted for an average fan to watch or care about.

Hybrids aren't done to improve the show. Hybrids aren't anything like DRS, they're more like turbos. What's ridiculous is how they are implemented. But the technology is what F1 has always been about. More power, greater advantage, clever engineering.

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Just 19 races then!

I'm kinda tempted to give up on F1.

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Will GP2 & GP3 do stand-alone race? GP3 is dead soon if there won't be any European rounds left in F1 calendar.


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Let's just create our own championship. It's clear that F1 don't have a clue how to run theirs, so we are more competent.


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