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Yeah! Bottas helmet-cam :D


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Is there any livestream for FP? ;) Thanks in advance!


A bit late, but www.watchF1forfree.com

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Williams wins again :D


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Hamilton spun.


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Di Resta's had the same kind of tyre failure Hamilton did.


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di Resta's left rear tyre has peeled away :8:

And the way Brundle is talking about how the cars are driving, its looking ominous for another Red Bull win.


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Barcelona-gate coming?


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I think it has to be a concern for Pirelli now that it's happened across two very different circuits. The problem is people Atlas forum members jump to conclusions that these problems MUST be because the tyres are 'made of cheese'.

If that was the case, every tyre would have that problem after a certain number of laps. Di Resta had done 6 laps on those tyres I think. It suggests a manufacturing problem...

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I don't ever recall seeing tyres fail in this way before.

Thing I don't get is that Pirelli said at Bahrain that the issues were caused by debris yet none of the tyres that failed actually lost pressure, They all just threw the tread off. Surely a tyre running over debris would cause a cut that would result in pressure loss rather than just rip the tread off.


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It is confusing. Supposedly Hamilton's tyre failure in Bahrain was a piece of metal that hit the tyre, because the remnants also affected Van der Garde's tyre (who was following behind).

It's a very peculiar failure because it looks just like the middle part of the tyre has broken apart.

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phil1993 wrote:
It's a very peculiar failure because it looks just like the middle part of the tyre has broken apart.


Looks to me like the tread is separating from the carcass, it's not beyond the realms of impossibility for a foreign object to cause that to happen without puncturing the carcass itself, but when it starts happening week in week out it's time to look at the manufacturing process. Even if it is a foreign object causing it, there's still a reason the entire tread is pealing off the carcass like that.

Back many many years ago one of the manufacturers tried to introduce re-treads into racing, they subsequently failed but the fear of having this type of failure was one of the main arguments against it, even though it never happened in the testing.


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di Resta's left rear tyre has peeled away :8:

And the way Brundle is talking about how the cars are driving, its looking ominous for another Red Bull win.


On the BBC they said Lotus looked impressive on the long runs.


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Lotus and Red Bull both look incredibly stable over the bumps.


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I see that McLaren have made huge progress...

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I see that McLaren have made huge progress...


Well they spent most of their time sending out a 500 word press release detailing why they changed their Twitter handle from @TheFifthDriver to @McLarenF1. Yes, really...

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1994-1996 all over again IMO


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RtN wrote:
I see that McLaren have made huge progress...


If they solved their correlation problems, that will be a very good improvement already as all other ones will rely on that


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Pirelli don't believe Di Resta's failure was caused by debris, There saying that the tread overheated & came away:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/107323


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