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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:26 am 
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because the unemployment numbers of the EU would go up again.


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JEV finishes 3rd in the fight for Webber's seat.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/108951


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Aren't teams and drivers already punished enough if a wheel comes loose? It costs them the race. And it's pretty clear no-one will do it on purpose so it's not like they try to injure someone in the pitlane.

This is not something they do to gain an advantage.
Even if you put a timelimit in place, like minimum of 6 seconds, they work bloody fast to hit the exact 6 seconds mark.

Maybe they should go for more than 1 lugnut? It's less likely all of them aren't put on so the wheel will wobble but not come loose


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:34 am 
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matthew wrote:
Lame. Penalise the team, not the driver.


It's a team sport after all. If a driver gets punished, then the whole team is affected, as in the end, only the drivers results matters. So I think they might perhaps be a little bit more careful now.


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aerogi wrote:
matthew wrote:
Lame. Penalise the team, not the driver.


It's a team sport after all. If a driver gets punished, then the whole team is affected, as in the end, only the drivers results matters. So I think they might perhaps be a little bit more careful now.

I never understood the 'penalize the team, not the driver' comments (not just F1 but other motorsports too) for that reason. It's not like the top teams even depend on the prize monies to get by, so they can take a hit by way of fines or constructor points if it means having the driver get away with whatever cheating they do.


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The team could just change engines/gearboxes whenever they please if the driver doesn't get a grid penalty. They will just cop the points loss.


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Regarding the pit lane penalties, here's probably why there was such a swift clampdown
http://www.espn.co.uk/blogs/motorsport/ ... 18031.html

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phil1993 wrote:
They've rejected the minimum pit stop idea anyway, no doubt the best teams don't want to lose that advantage.

According to the BBC they're working on a solution whereby wheels just cannot be insecurely attached - ie, ensuring that a mechanic can't give the approval before the wheel is secured.

The best solution for cars being released with the wheels not attached is give them onboard jacks like indycar and dtm.

Then put some sensors in the wheelguns, let the car drop automatically when the system detects that all wheelnuts are on. Indycar has a system like this in the fuelhose.


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Just go back to the 80's, where a tyre change of "only" 8 seconds was considered exceptional.


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codename_47 wrote:
The FIA wants the sport to be exciting, the tyre manufacturer wants their name in lights, as it were and the fans want strategy....


I was thinking about this, as 2005 went to mind. Tyre suppliers had their name on headlines due to their rivalry, but there wasn't tire change

my ideal scenario are no pitstops as before 1982, but that's impossible because everybody wants to match schumacher strategies from the days he won everything

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It would be cool if there was a tyre that could make it all the way to the finish, but the fastest way was still one or two stops. I think it was 1990 when Benetton kept trying to get through the races without pitting. They often ended up in the lead, and the others had to fight past to take the win (Senna vs Nannini at Hockenheim was a good battle). Piquet even won a couple of races without pitting.

I like that kind of strategy. The current rules don't encourage anything like that. You have to run both compounds.


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Part of me also thinks though that they'd put the numbers into their supercomputer, it would spit out some numbers and everyone would run a very similiar strategy anyway.


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True. Sometimes the fastest strategy requires you to have to overtake other cars, but DRS is making that all too easy anyway.


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ryan86 wrote:
Part of me also thinks though that they'd put the numbers into their supercomputer, it would spit out some numbers and everyone would run a very similiar strategy anyway.


It would be quite a spectacle to see Whiting and Blash sorting out random numbers in balls, like in a bingo before the race

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Sorry for the shameless plugging, but I wrote a behind-the-scenes experience about a race weekend. Any profits are going into covering Spa/Monza :)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Weekend-The-For ... f1+paddock

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Dubai is set to host F1 testing sessions prior to 2014.

A pity it's no addition to the real schedule. I like the track.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109042

If Bernie would be smart, we'd have the season start in early March, and before going to Australia in the last week of that month, we'd have
- Bahrain
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Just saw it posted elsewhere that there's talk in the Hungary paddock that Michelin have done a deal to enter F1 in 2015?


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StefMeister wrote:
Just saw it posted elsewhere that there's talk in the Hungary paddock that Michelin have done a deal to enter F1 in 2015?


Mark Hughes (Sky/Autosport) says Michelin will announce their interest in F1 2014 next week.

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