2022 Formula One Random Discussion Thread

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:46 am

Coldtyre wrote:

Also, support races. Present day F3 and F2 would not be short of amazing there

I like that since Germany isn't on the calendar, the traditional eulogy to the old Hockenheim is taking place here :lol:

I always remembered Berger putting a huge swipe on Blundell just before they reach the Ostkurve, but I never noticed how Blundell pushes him onto the grass beforehand. Seems quite fair in context!

pimmy · PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 3:28 pm

Good little scrap that. Well illustrated by Palmer droning on and on over the top of it. :thumbsup:

codename_47 · PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:55 pm

Old Hockenheim + DRS+More than 1 detection/activation point per straight=old fashioned, 1960s style Monza slipstreamer :8:

Do that plz FIA :whistling:

Bleu · PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:06 pm

More like Germany as an area belong to group 3.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 9:01 pm

Spain is so cursed for good racing that they should be alternating with one of those countries that pay big to host races

peterohanrahanrahan · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:29 am

LucasWheldon wrote:

Spain is so cursed for good racing that they should be alternating with one of those countries that pay big to host races

Lenovo Presents the Spanish Grand Prix at Spa Francorchamps

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:53 am

peterohanrahanrahan wrote:

LucasWheldon wrote:

Spain is so cursed for good racing that they should be alternating with one of those countries that pay big to host races

Lenovo Presents the Spanish Grand Prix at Spa Francorchamps

Spa curbs are already the proper color

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 8:59 am

The European and San Marino GP titles are currently unused, so this idea is a no-brainer.

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:16 am

New Hockenheim wasn't that bad, 00:56 here for some skilled madness

Omega · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:37 am

I always wondered, in the days that we had the GP of Luxembourg at the Nürburgring, did Luxembourg actually organize it, paid for it, or were involved with anything else besides a "sure, you can use our name"?

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:46 am

The French wikipedia page mentions that they only borrowed the name, but not much more details. Even in context it's difficult to know if it's a researched information, or just implied by the fact they raced in Germany. From my vague memories of the time it was malways referred to as a tribute more than anything else.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Pri ... Luxembourg

Did they play the Luxembourg national anthem before the race? Did they even play anthems in that era (we only had broadcast start barely before formation lap)?

What anthem they play at European GPs when run twice in the same county?

JJ · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:40 pm

Omega wrote:

I always wondered, in the days that we had the GP of Luxembourg at the Nürburgring, did Luxembourg actually organize it, paid for it, or were involved with anything else besides a "sure, you can use our name"?

I found this old article, but it doesn't really shed any light on the question. I wouldn't be surprised if money was involved. Bernie probably had always a few spare billions on their bank accounts.

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There are several points of interest. There are still only five non-European races despite the extra event - Austria being included but China losing out on its bid to hold a race in 1997. Portugal gets the season finale while the tiny Grand Duchy of Luxembourg - a historical curiosity and tax haven which nestles between Belgian, Germany and France - has been granted a Grand Prix, although this will be held at the Nurburgring in Germany. The title has been given to the race to avoid complaints that Germany is hosting too many consecutive European GPs (the Nurburgring has had races in 1995 and 1996) while other countries (notably France) do not get the chance. It will not be the first Luxembourg GP. There have been a number street and aerodrome races under that title dating back to 1939, when Jean-Pierre Wimille won the first in a Bugatti. After the war the event was revived for F2 and sportscars at Findel airport.
https://www.grandprix.com/news/the-1997 ... endar.html

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:48 pm

good old days when Bernie would find a name for a GP to have many races as they wished in an european country

although my dream is the Sicilian GP at Enna

RtN · PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:52 pm

Of particular interest is this bit;

Quote:

what the FIA is proposing now, to pull the floor up 2.5 cm at the edges and to strengthen the diffuser a bit, is exactly what Mercedes actually proposed to the FIA in Canada for this TD to solve the bouncing problem.

Wolff certainly getting his money's worth out of Shelley-Ann.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:28 am

LucasWheldon wrote:

good old days when Bernie would find a name for a GP to have many races as they wished in an european country

although my dream is the Sicilian GP at Enna

one of the best was the European GP at Baku :flag:

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:15 pm

mclaren2008 wrote:

one of the best was the European GP at Baku :flag:

Well Baku also hosted Euro 2020 matches and Kazakhstan is affiliated with UEFA, just like Israel aswell so I just assume professional sports are an outright mess regarding those technicalities

btw I'd rather have European GP at Baku over Valencia at any time

Afro_dud · PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:18 pm

Let's not forget the Swiss GP at Dijon

micha · PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:04 pm

So.... word on the street, or rather from some anti-trust authorities, is that Porsche will take a 50% stake in Red Bull Racing.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:15 pm

RtN wrote:

Of particular interest is this bit;

Quote:

what the FIA is proposing now, to pull the floor up 2.5 cm at the edges and to strengthen the diffuser a bit, is exactly what Mercedes actually proposed to the FIA in Canada for this TD to solve the bouncing problem.

Wolff certainly getting his money's worth out of Shelley-Ann.

Probably not the point that wants to be raised, but the FIA are already too far along the road of feeling responsible for everything that happens on track, including throwing Safety Cars just to ensure the cars are on the right tyres for the conditions.
The old days of "The pit lane is open, it's up to the teams to put on the right tyres for the conditions" are long, LONG gone I'm afraid

With that mindset, you can see how they want to push this directive through for safety, especially since the use of the front of the floor over the diffuser was not their intention for the new rules at all and is more a Double Diffuser style loophole the fastest teams have found in the rules for a compettitive advantage
They're now trying to reframe the debate to garner support, using "this will bring Mercedes dominance back" as the scary thing we must be afraid of and vote against, just like mainstream politicians do with fearmongering whatever lesser "other" tribe is on the outs at that particular moment in time

This will probably run and run..............then it'll be over and we'll get back on with watching racing.

amq55 · PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:17 pm

micha wrote:

So.... word on the street, or rather from some anti-trust authorities, is that Porsche will take a 50% stake in Red Bull Racing.

Morocco's authorities on that, of all people. https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pors ... /10344242/

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