2020 Formula One Random Discussion Thread

iks · PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:30 pm

Hülkenberg in the running for the 2nd RB seat apparently. I think that was mentioned before but it's on motorsport.com now, front page.

Albon did look promising though, until this year. Honestly I think Kvyat would've been a better choice. Albon is several grades weaker than Verstappen and that is just not acceptable. :oops:

codename_47 · PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:43 pm

micha wrote:

gkmotorsport wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

Lewis doesn't even have a contract for next season yet.

I dont expect any drama-rama on that front but it's odd they're leaving it so late. I guess he wants to know what Wolff is doing before he sits down with either him or his replacement and discusses his future.

I still entertain the idea that Lewis will quit at the end of the season if he wins the championship. Apart from an eighth title, he basically has nothing left to prove in this series.

and he is going vegan and green so F1 doesnt really fit into that either.
He is also selling all his petrol cars.

Congratulations Lewis Hamilton, 2021-22 Formula E champion :whistling:

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:01 pm

micha wrote:

gkmotorsport wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

Lewis doesn't even have a contract for next season yet.

I dont expect any drama-rama on that front but it's odd they're leaving it so late. I guess he wants to know what Wolff is doing before he sits down with either him or his replacement and discusses his future.

I still entertain the idea that Lewis will quit at the end of the season if he wins the championship. Apart from an eighth title, he basically has nothing left to prove in this series.

and he is going vegan and green so F1 doesnt really fit into that either.
He is also selling all his petrol cars.

Selling his petrol cars? Those tailor made one ofs that he's barely driven are now gonna be a waste? :8:

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:09 pm

Lewis Hamilton was cooler when he partied hard driving a Zonda and a private jet

differently from Vettel that despite losing his race craft still is a petrolhead with some cool additions to his garage

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:37 am

I can't believe Hamilton wouldn't stick around for at least the 8th championship if Toto does. He tries to project the appearance that he doesn't care about records and whether he's considered "the best ever", but he does.

Fabs · PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:32 am

Lewis is going to stay in F1. Not for the records maybe, but for the competition and the fact he likes racing these cars.

It helps he's getting payed a zillion dollars and his car is the best on the grid of course.

Or maybe the board at Mercedes have finally realised they don't really need Hamilton's massive contract to win championships.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 4:54 pm

I believe Lewis is very important to Mercedes even outside the car, as his activism really prompts them to show that "they're different from the rest", as his driver looks up to everything that is wrong and is prompting himself to change, aswell as the team is while their main opposition is a canned piss factory and a bunch of misguided italians

De Cesaris fan · PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:52 pm

I think Hulkenberg or Perez would be a decent option in the 2nd Red Bull.

Gasly has had a strong season and probably deserves another chance at Red Bull. Kvyat has been solid in the races but his qualifying pace is costing him. I just worry that anyone will struggle in that seat. Is the team and car too focused on Max? Is Max so fast that he makes his team mates look worse than they are? Or is the Alpha Tauri a good car, and Albon/Kvyat/Gasly are actually really average drivers?

There has to be a reason why nobody has done well in the 2nd Red Bull seat. Not since Ricciardo. I personally think the team is focused 100% on Max. But I also think that Max has developed into a brilliant driver

micha · PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:51 pm

I think its a few factors playing into the 2nd RBR seat
Mainly Max being lightning fast and the media being all over you if you dont match Max or get at least very close.

I wouldnt at all be surprised to find out that the car is just average and Albon is actually doing very well with the car but Max just is able to push out that much extra out of it like only a very select few over the last decades could.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:57 pm

quite difficult to be up to Max performance when the car is tailor made for him

pretty much like the Hondas in MotoGP, unless your name is Marc Marquez you're unable to do anything on those bikes

Fabs · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:36 am

RBR looking to take over the Honda engine project.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15281 ... f1-project

Best option for them, Red Bull in F1 saved?

VirtuaIceMan · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:36 pm

They should rebrand it "Wings"

Red Bull powered by Wings

gd49 · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:05 pm

De Cesaris fan wrote:

I think Hulkenberg or Perez would be a decent option in the 2nd Red Bull.

Gasly has had a strong season and probably deserves another chance at Red Bull. Kvyat has been solid in the races but his qualifying pace is costing him. I just worry that anyone will struggle in that seat. Is the team and car too focused on Max? Is Max so fast that he makes his team mates look worse than they are? Or is the Alpha Tauri a good car, and Albon/Kvyat/Gasly are actually really average drivers?

There has to be a reason why nobody has done well in the 2nd Red Bull seat. Not since Ricciardo. I personally think the team is focused 100% on Max. But I also think that Max has developed into a brilliant driver

I think they need to look hard at their management style given how many drivers have gone to pieces in that seat - there's probably a common factor and it's not the drivers

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deggis · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:07 pm

But the small print...

Quote:

"But this is only possible on condition that the engines are frozen by the first race in 2022 at the latest. We cannot afford further development, neither technically nor financially. That is a prerequisite."

In May a freeze was in the plan but gradually and leading to a total freeze in 2023 or from the start of 2024.

RtN · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:34 pm

The FIA has until the end of March to change their minds on that.

deggis · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:08 pm

Ferrari needs big upgrades, same for Renault and Renault can also gain two new customers by saying no to this idea.

The forced marriage (Marko used that term himself in that story, lol) seems inevitable.

RtN · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:35 pm

That's true. But he also mentioned a 'happy' forced marriage, and he didn't mention Renault specifically either;

Quote:

"According to the FIA regulations, every engine manufacturer has committed itself to supplying other teams. If something like this is to be a possibility for us, then it must fit the overall situation, and it must make us competitive.

"A happy forced marriage is not an issue for us."

If I had to guess, plan B looks like an attempt to extort Mercedes engines (even though, yes, Renault would be the primary designated supplier as they have no customers).

James B · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:45 pm

Technically is there anything to stop Red Bull going full Briatore and buying Williams to transfer their Mercedes engine deal to Red Bull?

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:36 pm

James B wrote:

Technically is there anything to stop Red Bull going full Briatore and buying Williams to transfer their Mercedes engine deal to Red Bull?

could be an option, unless there are antitrust laws regarding that. Plus it could give them room for a good return as there are still russians with money wanting to get a F1 operation and letting Williams at their hands is a great shortcut

unless the Williams owners ask for a shitload of money to recover their investment

RtN · PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:39 pm

McLaren could well be cheaper.

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