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What's going to be the biggest surprise of 2016 season?
Ferrari beats Mercedes 11%  11%  [ 9 ]
Williams will stay 3rd in standings 14%  14%  [ 11 ]
McLaren Honda gets podium 37%  37%  [ 29 ]
No wet races 9%  9%  [ 7 ]
Maldonado and Palmer are incredibly reliable and scores in every race 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
People will not complain how boring it is 8%  8%  [ 6 ]
It isn't actually boring at all 16%  16%  [ 13 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 4:46 pm 
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http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/10233646/f1-to-revert-to-2015-qualifying-format
So the teams (& drivers) have won the battle


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Mercedes will keep starting on pole

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Todt and Bernie won't have agreed to this without a trade-off somewhere. I wonder whether it is the 2017 rules or something else?

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And that could be rather worrying.


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coldtyre wrote:
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they could also try a system used a long ago at Indy, of average time from 4 timed laps. not exactly 4 laps, 3 could go to award the most consistent driver on a very soft tire



Hmm...That could actually work. Send the last guy in standings first. Once he's completed his sector1 on the out lap, send the 2nd last guy out. Then once the last guy finishes S2, send a 3rd last guy out. These drivers would then hit their three lap average. Once the last guy of these hits the end of s2, you start all over with the next three drivers in the reversed standings. Everyone will watch until the very end as the championship leader will be the last guy to complete his run.

Patent pending by LucasWheldon and NVirkkula. All rights reserved for the new Power Lap Qualifying format.

How is this better than the one-lap system? Sure we'll watch till the end but you're still giving the leader an even bigger track advantage with all the cars sweeping through his racing line and heating it up


Ever seen someone pushing three laps straight flawlessly? It's not as simple as it sounds. Margins in the top 4 would not be that big.

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kals wrote:
Todt and Bernie won't have agreed to this without a trade-off somewhere. I wonder whether it is the 2017 rules or something else?


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And that could be rather worrying.


Thinking about it, here is a summary of what could be part of a trade-off between Bernie, Todt and the teams:

Forcing through 2017 rules
Sauber and Force India dropping EU complaint
Approval of alternative engine
Agreement of reduced power-unit price and supply

What other politically minded items are ongoing at the moment?

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I don't believe it until it's Saturday next week. Todt will come up with some Joker-esque evil plan and threats to ban every team from competing etc.


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I want a boycot, it's time for another farce in F1.


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Fabs wrote:
I want a boycot, it's time for another farce in F1.


Wouldn't a boycot actually safe us all from a farce if they kept the idiotic qualifying or went for something even dumber??


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the teams want seize power like Bernie did in early 80's, but Bernie did it perfect to avoid to happen what he did to him

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Bernie is as sleezy as they can get. Contracts for 99+ years? Seriously. How that is ever legal... In any case, there is no choice for anyone. Tracks probably cant host a competing series and the the teams can't risk anything. As long as they don't stand as one block, nothing will ever change. And finally, the drivers have the biggest power, if they are bold enough to use it. They can boycot every race the way they want. But they are pussies at the end of the day. Writing letters, how masculine...


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Bernie is as sleezy as they can get. Contracts for 99+ years? Seriously. How that is ever legal... In any case, there is no choice for anyone. Tracks probably cant host a competing series and the the teams can't risk anything. As long as they don't stand as one block, nothing will ever change. And finally, the drivers have the biggest power, if they are bold enough to use it. They can boycot every race the way they want. But they are pussies at the end of the day. Writing letters, how masculine...



Yeah, but Bernie is also smart. He's pulled all the right strings and levers on his way. Concorde agreement is basically an agreement from the teams to get some amount of money to settle their pesant role with no vote on anything unless they're all unanimous. And when you give a chunk load of money to the few big teams and only coins for the small ones who struggle to survive, you know they rarely have common agenda. Drivers and their association...yeah...when they get millions of dollars and are on the top of the world, why should they revolt? Back in the 80's the top tier drivers did not get as much as the midfield drivers gets today. And as the safety has improved by a ton since alloy honey comb monoques and cars bursting in to flames all the times on race tracks with armcos falling off by themselves you have to ask this: why would the drivers protest on anything? They're not strapping themselves up in death traps for few dollars to support their families. At the same time the ones pulling the strings, thongs and even levers only care about money and how to make more of it. The system itself is as crooked as the ones who created it and they're willing to twist the last living thing out of it in the name of more profit. F1 might die because of this as no one cares about the sport itself, but another series will fill in that gap as soon as it's gone. As long as the sport will stay true to the fans that makes it big in the first place, it will prevail.

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When is the FIA going to get it through their thick heads that it is the car regulations, not the format that has gotten F1 to this situation we are in.

Now they are considering doing away with qualifying and having a race on Saturday to determine the grid next year. Proposing to throw 65 years of tradition out the window. The format is fine, its the car design regulations that ARE the problem.


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Pretty sure the teams are against it and will allways try to block that.


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siggy wrote:
Writing letters, how masculine...


I write letters. :cry:


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Writing letters, how masculine...


I write letters. :cry:

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Writing letters, how masculine...


I write letters. :cry:

:love: :drunk:


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I'm pretty sure that with Bernie doing this we'll have sprinklers in every track by 2019

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What is still driving Bernie? When you know you're going to die within the next, what, 10 years? And have already left your mark in history? What makes him still be so aggressively involved in $$$$$ stuff in Formula 1? I don't know if I should be fascinated or scared or if it's a model to go by. It's confusing. I could understand staying involved in the "passion" side of things, but the whole financial aspect seems more like a means than an end in itself.

Than again it's probably why I'm still not a millionaire at 30yo


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