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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:58 pm 
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What does it solve to go back? It wouldn't change anything. Nada. That is the only thing they are doing right.


So the current one is better than the old one? They're not doing anything right because they can't agree on anything either and by doing so, everyone's stuck with the crap we have now.

It's not worse. Just because it might be confusing for some, doesn't make it worse.

Let's recap. They invented this to increase unpredictability? In what universe does it help to go back?

They should sit down and don't come out until it is resolved. In the end, nothing matters as the decision making process remains the same.

Bernie has too much power, Mercedes and Ferrari have too much power. But hey, let their little aristocracy screw the f1 to its glorious yet hilarious end.


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Why the fucking fuck do they demand such fucking compli-fucking-cated clusterfuck of a qualification? Is putting F1 behind a fucking paywall not fucking enough to turn away potential new fans?

Do they fucking want to destroy the sport we all love so fucking much?

Goddammit I am so fucking pissed right now.


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Unless it is split over two days the aggregate idea is stupid. It's the FIA and they deal exclusively with stupidity so that's a slam dunk then.


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When are FOM going to update the F1 graphic? Seems appropriate for the "1" to be replaced by a fist with the middle finger extended.

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why would the promoters like an empty track


Because then the empty grandstands don't look so bad.

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Because the promoter doesn't earn shit from gate attendance, so doesn't give a fuck if the grandstands are empty. Tracks missed a beat with Bernie, thy should have negotiated a lower sanction fee in return for a percentage of gate fees, then they'll be interested in fixing it if lower attendance meant less income.

Mind you, you can't fix stupid so until the tracks are complete ghost towns not even the tracks will do anything, all the time Joe Public spends £300 for a weekend at Silverstone, nowt will be fixed.


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What the fuck was wrong with the qualifying of last years anyways?


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What the fuck was wrong with the qualifying of last years anyways?

What the fuck was right with it?


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How is this years better?

Last year you could spread it out and even wait until the end. This year nothing happens at the end.


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siggy wrote:
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What the fuck was wrong with the qualifying of last years anyways?

What the fuck was right with it?


I rather have the last minutes to be exciting than the first minutes. Now we have a phew first laps and then nothing, I rather had it the other way around.


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What the fuck was wrong with the qualifying of last years anyways?

What the fuck was right with it?


:slaphead: Siggy, use your common sense and watch a quali session from the last 6 years and you'll find the answer.


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You're all saying it, but not seeing it. The only thing that changed is the moment of excitement, that's it. Result wise nothing changes. Yet, you're all desperate to go back?

"We want excitement at the end!!!!!1"

What a rational reasoning. Why not paint the Ferrari's blue and call F1 reborn.


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knox4 wrote:
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What the fuck was wrong with the qualifying of last years anyways?

What the fuck was right with it?


:slaphead: Siggy, use your common sense and watch a quali session from the last 6 years and you'll find the answer.

It was boring as hell with the first few minutes completely useless.


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Okay then, you get three minutes to quali, therefore all cars on the track at the same time and no lull.

Last years was better because you didn't know who was where until the end. Now there's no one on the track at the end.


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The perception that the excitement has moved from one given time of qualifying to another is sadly misplaced. Qualifying has now become on a one lap, one attempt format with the 90 crescendo not being used in the manner it was planned. It is a false flag. Drivers are banking a lap and then doing nothing more as they do not have the time nor tyre allocation. In Q2 there were no cars on track with 50% of the session to go. Then only Hulkenburg went out. If Lewis hadn't messed up his first attempt then Q3 would have followed in the same vein as Australia.

I don't care if excitement comes at the beginning, the middle, or the end. But what I do expect is that the drivers be able to fight for their grids spots and see cars on the track. At the moment, neither of these things are happening.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:03 pm 
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siggy wrote:
You're all saying it, but not seeing it. The only thing that changed is the moment of excitement, that's it. Result wise nothing changes. Yet, you're all desperate to go back?

"We want excitement at the end!!!!!1"

What a rational reasoning. Why not paint the Ferrari's blue and call F1 reborn.


The only way to make qualifying more exciting is to have a knock out race. The formats before the knock out system where utterly boring.


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siggy wrote:
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What the fuck was right with it?


:slaphead: Siggy, use your common sense and watch a quali session from the last 6 years and you'll find the answer.

It was boring as hell with the first few minutes completely useless.


WOW, I don't know what type f1 or motorsport you watch man. Clearly f1 is not A SPORT to you, but sports-entertainment like wwe.


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Euhm, our definition of the word 'sport' is not the same i guess.


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You really think the predictability of F1 qualifying is best fixed with a format change? The grid is as predictable as the race results, because the problem is there's no real competition between the teams at the front. The only way there will be a meaningful improvement in the qualifying "show" is to improve the competition by closing the engine performance gap. I don't expect the FIA will ever understand that, but I would have thought a forum member here would.

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