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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:08 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:09 am 
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Better get a blaney interview.


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codename_47 wrote:
So yeah, on balance, they did good with the low downforce package.

2 non-terrible races in a row. Wooooo


I agree, this looked like the Atlanta races of old to me. But is it enough for NASCAR to give it a chance and stop playing with it? Or are they expecting a pack racing slingshot-fest, even though Atlanta never produced that kind of racing.

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thought it was a good race too, hopefully the current racing product can last a few more weeks before dirty air prevails again


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:11 am 
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Not a bad race. Again, driver wins the race the right way rather than some dipshit green-white-checker.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:15 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:22 am 
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LucasWheldon wrote:
we need Ford in IndyCar


So much this.

But i get the impression we're seeing less ford everywhere rather than more fords in new places

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:29 am 
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Better race than expected, hopefully they'll go the whole hog and chop the skirts off and shrink the pan more, what they've done so far is obviously moving in the right direction.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:36 am 
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They definitely have some ways to go on the rules package to really reduce the dirty air effect. However, it looks like they did make a step in the right direction. That was a fairly entertaining race throughout. And we actually had an actual green flag pass for the lead late in the race. Can't remember the last time I saw that happen in a NASCAR race!


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codename_47 wrote:
LucasWheldon wrote:
we need Ford in IndyCar


So much this.

But i get the impression we're seeing less ford everywhere rather than more fords in new places


I suspect Ford has increased it's support to Penske for NASCAR and the Ford GT program is chewing up a big chunk of change with an eye toward a real deal prototype.


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The package is definitely heading in the right direction. There was some good racing on the final stint, but a bit spread out in the first half. Whatever the package, there will always be parts of the race where not a lot happens.

It just didn't excite quite as much as Kentucky and Darlington. I think that the wider radiator pan and a bit of downforce clawed back by the engineers has left us somewhere between Kentucky/Darlington and the normal package from last year. A lot better than most of the races last season, but still some room to improve the cars some more. I hope that NASCAR continues to take more downforce off, to keep up with any gains from the engineers. I wouldn't argue with a little bit more power, but that's probably wishful thinking.

Still, it's an improvement, and that's got to worth something when watching NASCAR.


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Yeaa not a lot happened in that part of the race but it didn't bore me like it usually did. There was still some interest at least but perhaps that was down to still debating if the package was any ood or not.


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The fact Kenseth was able to save his car the way he did (before Chase found him) and Harvick was able to straddle the transition the way he did is enough to tell me there's still too much (under body) downforce at play.


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Ian-S wrote:
The fact Kenseth was able to save his car the way he did (before Chase found him) and Harvick was able to straddle the transition the way he did is enough to tell me there's still too much (under body) downforce at play.

I assume the way the drivers can save those sideways slides anymore is due to the sideforce these cars create when in yaw, not so much the underbody downforce. The giant flat right side of the car really gets pushed by the air when they get sideways.


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I guess that's one explanation, but it doesn't happen with RWD Touring cars or V8 Supercars and those don't have skirts, but those don't run on banked ovals either so it could be a combination of all three.


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And the speed they carry and the setup and the horsepower and the fact that this happens way often.


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Anyway, the tyres have proven to be the biggest difference imo. This track is way faster than the lady in black or Kentucky. If it wasnt for the tyre strategy it wouldve probably been another boring finish.

But just look at that megazine with the gen x car. Thats a small splitter man. The future looks bright.


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Dan Belcher wrote:
Ian-S wrote:
The fact Kenseth was able to save his car the way he did (before Chase found him) and Harvick was able to straddle the transition the way he did is enough to tell me there's still too much (under body) downforce at play.

I assume the way the drivers can save those sideways slides anymore is due to the sideforce these cars create when in yaw, not so much the underbody downforce. The giant flat right side of the car really gets pushed by the air when they get sideways.


They can save the cars easier because of the huge wicker running down the driver side of the rear window. They get sideways and that helps to keep the cars from going all the way around allowing for that extra precious second for the driver to regain control.


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Anyway, the tyres have proven to be the biggest difference imo. This track is way faster than the lady in black or Kentucky. If it wasnt for the tyre strategy it wouldve probably been another boring finish.

But just look at that megazine with the gen x car. Thats a small splitter man. The future looks bright.

I must be late to the party but gen x car?

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ChrisTRD wrote:
Soul Reaver wrote:
Anyway, the tyres have proven to be the biggest difference imo. This track is way faster than the lady in black or Kentucky. If it wasnt for the tyre strategy it wouldve probably been another boring finish.

But just look at that megazine with the gen x car. Thats a small splitter man. The future looks bright.

I must be late to the party but gen x car?

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full article on it at Racecar Engineering, just sign up for the site (free portion) and you should be able to download the February issue of Stockcar Engineering


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