2016 Random F1 Discussion Thread

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:34 pm

I guess the other cars will have no problem following McLaren as the engine can't help

Mattzel89 · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:59 pm

I love the Manor, also need to get a diecast of that RB12

[tweet]https://twitter.com/joesaward/status/701747921746702338[/tweet]

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:00 pm

OS wrote:

Fabs wrote:

Honda hasn't broken down yet

They'll probably get almost as much running in today as they did last winter.

Almost - apparently they beat the mileage for the entire first test last year :flag:

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:02 pm

Fabs wrote:

Complex front wing + dirty air = can't follow other cars.

(Complex front wing + dirty air = can't follow other cars) = 90% of the reason why the 2017 rule set will fail to deliver the results they want.

Sergio · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:44 pm

IceMan wrote:

McLaren front wing, what a mess, compared to cars of the past!

Back in the days it was a the whole flap wich bended when they did a wing adjustment.
Am i correct that on this photo they adjust the top 2 of the 10 flaps to get more or less downforce?
Still i find it a amazing achievement that hey can get so much downforce from these little winglets on top of each other but aesthetic wise its meh...

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:26 pm

Mattzel89 wrote:

I love the Manor, also need to get a diecast of that RB12

[tweet]https://twitter.com/joesaward/status/701747921746702338[/tweet]

[not quote part]:

New Manor:

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:51 pm

Sergio wrote:

IceMan wrote:

McLaren front wing, what a mess, compared to cars of the past!

Back in the days it was a the whole flap wich bended when they did a wing adjustment.
Am i correct that on this photo they adjust the top 2 of the 10 flaps to get more or less downforce?
Still i find it a amazing achievement that hey can get so much downforce from these little winglets on top of each other but aesthetic wise its meh...

I think the rule since 2009 was that there's only one adjustable part on each side of the nosecone. Something like this.

But then of course, just like with double-diffuser, teams noticed a loophole, that they could use winglets and split the two wing profile in multiple pieces, bend them, add vertical supports/wind directors. And so the evolution has bring us here.

So that's what happens when you leave the loopholes and let the team do evolution over a rule. From engineering point of view, this is good thing. But racing itself it has taken away close racing because of the design being more vulnerable for dirty air.

Sergio · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:10 pm

That makes it pretty clear.
Thanks NVirkkula.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:40 pm

So Mercedes have won 16 races in each of the last 2 seasons and people think they're all of a sudden gonna lose based on the first day of testing?

:lol:

webbsy · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:32 am

Oh dear god my eyes! That 2009 Renault was such an eye sore. Can't decide whether or not the dick/stepped nose cars were more preferable.

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:04 am

webbsy wrote:

Oh dear god my eyes! That 2009 Renault was such an eye sore. Can't decide whether or not the dick/stepped nose cars were more preferable.

Nah, that car was awful-looking even next to its contemporaries. 2009 wasn't that bad of course:

(The Williams was pretty tast as well)

VirtuaIceMan · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:39 am

Mercedes have multi part barge boards and vanes:

StefMeister · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:59 pm

Yasuhisa Arai has been replaced as head of Honda's F1 program by Yusuke Hasegawa.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35638902

Fish88 · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:03 pm

mclaren2008 wrote:

So Mercedes have won 16 races in each of the last 2 seasons and people think they're all of a sudden gonna lose based on the first day of testing?

:lol:

Yeah Mercedes drove the most laps of all teams yesterday. They are already working on reliability while others are still working out their new systems.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:35 pm

Mercedes have all the things sorted out by far. the only thing we don't know is if Rosberg will beat Hamilton

Mika Kimi · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 3:43 pm

To be fair, I think we know that as well.

alex1369 · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 4:47 pm

Nobody never shows their cards on pre season testing

Echti · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:04 pm

Apparently there will be a new qualifying format for this year: a one hour session and the slowest driver after a certain deadline will drop out, then the next one a few minutes later and so on.

amq55 · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:15 pm

Quote:

Q1
-16 minutes duration

- After 7 minutes, slowest driver is eliminated

- Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag

- 7 drivers eliminated, 15 progress to Q2

Q2

- 15 minutes duration

- After 6 minutes, slowest driver eliminated

- Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag

- 7 drivers eliminated, 8 progress to Q3

Q3

- 14 minutes

- After 5 minutes, slowest driver eliminated

- Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag

- 2 drivers left in final 1 minute 30 seconds

Time ballast

There are also suggestions that the format could be combined with a time ballast proposal, where the championship leader has certain time added to his official time.

Teams have also agreed to delay a final decision on 2017 bodywork rules.

*sigh*

RtN · PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:17 pm

Slightly more complex than that;

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-te ... 16-675278/

Will keep the track active at all times, at least.

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