2014 Random F1 Discussion

kals · PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:01 pm

Caterham have continually flattered to deceive despite having far better resources than their nearest competitors. To have half a Red Bull and barely beat Marussia is next to pathetic. Especially considering how much they've hyped themselves up over the years.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:14 pm

At least they haven't reviewed drivers like Max Chilton (altough Marcus Ericsson is not really a stand out).

kals · PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:23 pm

Correct, but they did have Vitaly Petrov.

Gaara · PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:49 pm

Who is probably better then Chilton.

kals · PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:03 pm

Juihi · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:40 am

So ya... took this photo today

Stefan Johansson & Michele Alboreto's 1985 Ferrari 156/85 V6 Turbos along with Gerhard Berger's 1994 Ferrari 412T1B V12

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:23 am

Ex Toyota driver Christiano da Matta has retired from racing.

Tobias · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:30 am

kals wrote:

Correct, but they did have Vitaly Petrov.

whom, in his defence, was the only reason Caterham finished ahead of Marussia in 2012. It was also the closest Caterham (and the 'new teams') came to scoring a point.

Also, there was this:

pimmy · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:50 am

I love Kobayashi but I'd rather he stayed in WEC.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:34 pm

kals wrote:

Caterham have continually flattered to deceive despite having far better resources than their nearest competitors. To have half a Red Bull and barely beat Marussia is next to pathetic. Especially considering how much they've hyped themselves up over the years.

Yes, they screwed up. But remember that in the 2009-13 regulations, once you got behind it was very difficult to catch up. Marussia has done an incredible job but remember that Caterham's 2013 car was effectively the 2012 model ever so slightly tweaked.

My point is that they've disappointed me - there have been reasons for their problems - but 2014 is the proper acid test. They should be in the midfield and there are few excuses for them not to be there.

Fish88 · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:52 pm

phil1993 wrote:

kals wrote:

Caterham have continually flattered to deceive despite having far better resources than their nearest competitors. To have half a Red Bull and barely beat Marussia is next to pathetic. Especially considering how much they've hyped themselves up over the years.

Yes, they screwed up. But remember that in the 2009-13 regulations, once you got behind it was very difficult to catch up. Marussia has done an incredible job but remember that Caterham's 2013 car was effectively the 2012 model ever so slightly tweaked.

My point is that they've disappointed me - there have been reasons for their problems - but 2014 is the proper acid test. They should be in the midfield and there are few excuses for them not to be there.

TBH with Marussia now getting Ferrari engines I expect them to be the top runner of the backmarkers. If you keep in mind Marussia was able to bring the fight with Cosworths, I expect them to step up their game (although with the new V6's the ranking of engine manufacturers is yet unknown).

Akwel · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:56 pm

mclaren2008 wrote:

Ex Toyota driver Christiano da Matta has retired from racing.

I never had any news about him since his terrible accident at Elkhart Lake.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:59 pm

Akwel wrote:

mclaren2008 wrote:

Ex Toyota driver Christiano da Matta has retired from racing.

I never had any news about him since his terrible accident at Elkhart Lake.

His career never recovered from that. He ran for some half-arsed teams in ALMS (including the Rocketsports Jaguar) for a while, but never really re-established himself. It's a sad story. He was a great driver in his day, and was unfairly dumped by Toyota in 2004.

Fish88 · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:12 pm

Kimi Raikkonen back in Ferrari colours.

[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkk8pYQm59Y[/youtubeidiot]

More videos to be found at this channel of the car interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcMkUAFqiq4

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:28 pm

dicksplaash wrote:

Akwel wrote:

mclaren2008 wrote:

Ex Toyota driver Christiano da Matta has retired from racing.

I never had any news about him since his terrible accident at Elkhart Lake.

His career never recovered from that. He ran for some half-arsed teams in ALMS (including the Rocketsports Jaguar) for a while, but never really re-established himself. It's a sad story. He was a great driver in his day, and was unfairly dumped by Toyota in 2004.

I was thinking the same thing when I read it, was trying to trace back the last time I remembered him racing and that accident was sadly the last I heard of him.

It was a bit Zanardi-ish too as he'd just won his first champcar race after his F1 sojourn when it happened, such a shame.
Another guy who felt more at home in American racing than the corporate serious world of F1.

James B · PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:02 pm

It's sad that his career was effectively ended back then, but at the same time, he was very lucky to survive at all, let alone race again. Judging by what Dr Hartstein has said recently, he only had about a 10% chance of surviving when they got him to the hospital

Do you have a source for this announcement, by the way? I've tried searching and can't find anything

kals · PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:33 pm

codename_47 wrote:

It was a bit Zanardi-ish too as he'd just won his first champcar race after his F1 sojourn when it happened

That's not correct. Da Matta won in return season after only a handful of races in. In 2006 when he had this accident he hadn't won, but had just achieved a season's best 2nd place at the race prior.

That said, I agree with your sentiments. Very unfortunate.

I first remember watching him in British F3 in the mid-nineties.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:02 pm

da Matta was one of the greats, you can see by his sucess

he owes his talent to the father, a legendary driver in Brazil called Toninho da Matta, won 14 national championships racing touring cars

StefMeister · PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:16 am

Bernie will be pushing for double points at the final 3 races in Wednesdays strategy group meeting:
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20140119/F1/140119816

alex1369 · PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:19 am

StefMeister wrote:

Bernie will be pushing for double points at the final 3 races in Wednesdays strategy group meeting:
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20140119/F1/140119816

Oh man, when you think there has been enough damage.. well looks like they will destroy it a little bit more

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