2013 Random F1 Discussion

Justin Time · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:40 pm

aerogi wrote:

I can't give a good reason, but I don't want teams to run different painted cars.

I would love however though that they can change the design a few times for a specific reason (publicity, emotional, honoring something or someone).

about the points system, I could live that all teams would get points. from P22 until P1. That way you would really know who would have been dead last.

I like the idea of two different liveries within a team. The first thing that springs to my mind is BAR in 1999, but then again, their merged livery with the zipper in the middle looked really nice too...

kals · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:44 pm

BAR 1999 are Ligier 1993 are the only ones I can think of, although BAR weren't allowed and Ligier was a one-off at Suzuka that year. I remember McLaren ran a special gold Marlboro livery back in 1984 or 1985, but don't remember if that was for just one driver at one race.

micha · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:45 pm

In positive news. The mandatory pitstop idea has been shutdown apparently.

kals wrote:

BAR 1999 are Ligier 1993 are the only ones I can think of, although BAR weren't allowed and Ligier was a one-off at Suzuka that year. I remember McLaren ran a special gold Marlboro livery back in 1984 or 1985, but don't remember if that was for just one driver at one race.

There have been special paints by Red Bull as well for Monaco (Batman movie??).

I find the idea of having both cars in the same paintjob outdated and there is no real good reason to keep the rule in place.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:50 pm

BAR ran a modified livery in China for a few years, but only very slightly tweaked.

The last one I can think of was Red Bull at Silverstone last year.

micha · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:52 pm

anyone got the full article of this one from autosport?
"Formula 1's strangest rule changes"

James B · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:54 pm

David Coulthard ran a special livery in his last race that was different from Webber's

I think the gold McLaren was at the end of 1986 and was only carried on Rosberg's car. Back in the early 1970s, McLaren painted two cars in Marlboro colours and one in Yardley colours for a year or two

I think it was meant to be banned so that the teams had a distinct brand image, otherwise it would supposedly just get confusing

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:59 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Wasn't it Webber whose ECU in 2008 was shut down by a passing tram? Probably the most random retirement ever.

which race?

kals wrote:

BAR 1999 are Ligier 1993 are the only ones I can think of, although BAR weren't allowed and Ligier was a one-off at Suzuka that year. I remember McLaren ran a special gold Marlboro livery back in 1984 or 1985, but don't remember if that was for just one driver at one race.

McLaren run the yellow car for Rosberg in 86 Portuguese GP but was dropped off after they saw the poor image quality practically made impossible to see (printed a photo of that car to display in my bedroom, one of my favourite Marlboro liveries)

Spoiler:

BAR brought a 555 livery car for Davidson in China 2004 for practice, better than the lucky strike one

Spoiler:

kals · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:02 pm

Webber's retirement was at the Singapore GP - http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71054

Davidson's car was a third car, not a race car and so got special dispensation to run that livery in practice.

James B · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:02 pm

LucasWheldon wrote:

phil1993 wrote:

Wasn't it Webber whose ECU in 2008 was shut down by a passing tram? Probably the most random retirement ever.

which race?

Singapore 2008, although I think the team denied it later

phil1993 · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:12 pm

McLaren & Force India won't be testing in Bahrain next week, so we're down to four teams.

Schumifan · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:19 pm

De Cesaris fan wrote:

Hrm, they're twice as close to each other, do we 1) continue down this path that was working but isn't quite there yet, or 2) consider it failed, and bring in DRS and soggy tyres?

This bit in particular is so frustrating. The racing between the non-DDD cars in the first few races of 2009 was 10/10. So close, but yet so far.

RtN · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:20 pm

James B wrote:

I think it was meant to be banned so that the teams had a distinct brand image, otherwise it would supposedly just get confusing

I for one am constantly left befuddled by the 43 different-liveried cars on circuit every week in NASCAR, and am generally incapable of telling them apart.

Whenever a front-runner decides to run a one-off scheme my brain shuts down completely.

Spoiler:

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:39 pm

stimaro wrote:

aerogi wrote:

I wonder who will go for number 13... when was the last time that number had been used in F1?

You'll like this article.
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/why-there-is-no-number-13-in-formula-1/

This kind of subject is cute and funny, but when it's still taken in consideration in all seriousness while making airplanes without a 13th row or buildings without a 13th floor, it gets downright depressing.

Anyway, Olivier Panis was once asked about whether or not he had any little lucky rituals before a race. He said "Yes before my crash. After, not anymore". Schumacher used to get in his car from the left side, but also stopped doing so after a few bad results.

micha · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:53 pm

RtN wrote:

James B wrote:

I think it was meant to be banned so that the teams had a distinct brand image, otherwise it would supposedly just get confusing

I for one am constantly left befuddled by the 43 different-liveried cars on circuit every week in NASCAR, and am generally incapable of telling them apart.

Whenever a front-runner decides to run a one-off scheme my brain shuts down completely.

Spoiler:

thats because of all the inbreeding ya'll doin' obviously Dang Redneck NASCAR Fans.... Johnson's fault!!

Spoiler:

kals · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:15 pm

Really? I thought the majority of NASCAR fans only knew the colour schemes of Dale Jr and Danica and simply ignored the rest of the field.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:19 pm

about the numbers, all I wanna know is: will Ferrari impose numbers 27 and 28 to their driver as it must be?

cookie · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:50 pm

LucasWheldon wrote:

about the numbers, all I wanna know is: will Ferrari impose numbers 27 and 28 to their driver as it must be?

Numbers will be driver numbers, not car numbers. So if Alonso or Raikkonen leave Ferrari they will take that number with them. Ferrari can only get those numbers back if the numbers come available again for a rookie driver after Alonso and Raikkonen retire.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:54 pm

and that's why FIA even when doing good things they do it wrong

Schumifan · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 8:46 pm

Driver numbers are better than team numbers. You see a number, you know who it is. You don't need a number to know what car it is, the livery does that job.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:05 pm

Lotus shared this via Facebook :lol:

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