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Every part of Formula One is broken. Every part of Formula One costs too much.

Every part of how Formula One operates needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. It doesn't matter whether we are talking about teams, venues, sponsors, manufacturing parts, drivers, etc... The current model does not fit today's climate. The current model is almost identical to the one Bernie originally bought 30-40 years ago.

More and more teams and senior figures will complain and the reaction from FOM and FIA will be band-aid style fixes. Painting over cracks. Despite these complaints nothing will basically change from as we are now, let alone into the future.

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so, what's the main change to abolish those costs?

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What do you mean?

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The one good thing Mosely used to do was he'd propose something ridiculously extreme and outlandish, cost cutting wise as a way of getting the teams to compromise on something sensible.

So Todt needs to propose something stupid like 1 engine for the season, 1 set of tyres all weekend etc so eventually the teams will at least start negotiating toward something halfway decent for all.

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He's asking what could be done to save on costs.

Whatever it is probably wouldn't save Lotus who are now bleeding staff at an alarming rate.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Thanks, that makes sense.

Codename, while I agree with you these are just material things and merely scratching the surface of the issues. This isn't just about teams agree to measures but rather a wholesale restructure of the entire sport. Only one person, one company truly profits out of F1, only that person's company enjoys true stability. That's not viable or appropriate for a sport or industry that relies on so many people within and around it.

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I like that people still think the teams will work together for the good of the sport. Has nobody learnt anything yet?

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Learnt what?

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They'll cooperate........ Once it's too late

Should have let Dave Richards take over them team back then. Still can't give a shit bout teams like 1Malaysia Racing Team and Virgin racing.

I've heard the same complaints every year since I started actively following F1 20 years ago. Cost are going up, we have to do something.

This is probably an uncorrelated observation but is it a coincidence that the cost have risen more dramatically than in the past since F1's commercial rights have been in the hands of investment groups out looking for profits on their investment? I know that FOM don't spend the the money the teams use, the teams do that by themselves, but it just seems odd to me that the barriers to entry and participation seem higher since the commercial rights have been held by investment groups rather than the sport itself.

Are the costs really that high? I think they were much higher in the early 2000's with qualifying engines, T-cars unlimited testing and so on. They've cut back on those things and added more races which should also mean more income

F1 considering ban on helmet livery changes




Why does the F1 technical committee hold the assumption that F1 fans and commentators have short attention span? There's only 22 cars.

I'm not a fan of the constant helmet changes and stuff but honestly, the committee has nothing better to do?

The banning of helmet changes is worse than you think. If they do that then sponsors won't like it because they can't buy spaces for races. So now every helmet would be up for sale and whilst they'd stay the same, they'd be less personal.

Also the car ID is meant to be done by the Camera highlight colour. So look at that, not the helmet.

Vettel changing how helmet every week makes it more personal than the other red bull drivers who just have generic red bull helmets. Vettel makes the fact his helmet is owned by red bull a good thing by having a new one every week.

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So New Jersey could happen after all.

Pretty much Scotty.

That's what Red Bull will do, because there can be so much fiddling done with accounts. The figures that regularly get thrown around with regards to the finances of every team are usually accurate... only Red Bull supposedly spend double of what everyone believes.

There was the slim chance in 2009 of something being done but it by-passed the teams. Self-interest ruled again.

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The best thing Tony Fernandes can do to get his point across is announce the team is quitting F1. With Sauber and Lotus struggling, the big wigs taking all the money out (this means you Bernie!) will soon take notice of a 16 car grid!

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Meh, unfreeze engine rules. Allow more development, qualifying spec, scrap parc ferme and bring back warm up. Just allow them to spend what they want and if teams go bust then so be it. Scrap the team limit as well, maybe we'd end up with pre qualifying again and get rid of the 107% rule. Mobile chicanes are a part of racing as anything but some of them may not even qualify if you limit the grid size rather then the entry size.

R&D makes up most of a team's expenses I would think.

And entry fees.