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NVirkkula · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:02 pm

codename_47 wrote:

James B wrote:

Lewis has been called up to the stewards' room for not slowing under the yellow flags for Bottas' excursion. Looks like Max might be on the front row after all!

Not sure how that's fair as it'd be pretty instant between Bottas flying off immediately in front of him and the yellow coming out as he was in that sector

But the stewards and marshals have all the required telemetry in this case so I guess it'll be pretty open and shut

Though considering how they've let multiple drivers off with it in the past (remember Mika in ...98 was it? Holding his hand up to acknowledge the flag white still keeping it foot to the floor flat out) it'd be suspiciously harsh if they clamp down on Lewis for this.

I think at worst they'll only delete his 2nd lap time and he keeps 2nd spot anyways.

Häkkinen raised his hand so it was back in the day considered as noticing the danger even though he didn't slow at all. Rules were changed afterwards.

Karan · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:11 pm

NVirkkula wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

James B wrote:

Lewis has been called up to the stewards' room for not slowing under the yellow flags for Bottas' excursion. Looks like Max might be on the front row after all!

Not sure how that's fair as it'd be pretty instant between Bottas flying off immediately in front of him and the yellow coming out as he was in that sector

But the stewards and marshals have all the required telemetry in this case so I guess it'll be pretty open and shut

Though considering how they've let multiple drivers off with it in the past (remember Mika in ...98 was it? Holding his hand up to acknowledge the flag white still keeping it foot to the floor flat out) it'd be suspiciously harsh if they clamp down on Lewis for this.

I think at worst they'll only delete his 2nd lap time and he keeps 2nd spot anyways.

Yea except that I believe his lap from the first run is also under investigation by the stewards for leaving the track at turn 10.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:17 pm

Karan wrote:

NVirkkula wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

Not sure how that's fair as it'd be pretty instant between Bottas flying off immediately in front of him and the yellow coming out as he was in that sector

But the stewards and marshals have all the required telemetry in this case so I guess it'll be pretty open and shut

Though considering how they've let multiple drivers off with it in the past (remember Mika in ...98 was it? Holding his hand up to acknowledge the flag white still keeping it foot to the floor flat out) it'd be suspiciously harsh if they clamp down on Lewis for this.

I think at worst they'll only delete his 2nd lap time and he keeps 2nd spot anyways.

Yea except that I believe his lap from the first run is also under investigation by the stewards for leaving the track at turn 10.

TV Director played that 3 times in a desperate attempt to get Lewis a penalty....

Alright FIA, true colours showing today eh :whistling:

Karan · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:22 pm

codename_47 wrote:

James B wrote:

Lewis has been called up to the stewards' room for not slowing under the yellow flags for Bottas' excursion. Looks like Max might be on the front row after all!

Not sure how that's fair as it'd be pretty instant between Bottas flying off immediately in front of him and the yellow coming out as he was in that sector

But the stewards and marshals have all the required telemetry in this case so I guess it'll be pretty open and shut

Though considering how they've let multiple drivers off with it in the past (remember Mika in ...98 was it? Holding his hand up to acknowledge the flag white still keeping it foot to the floor flat out) it'd be suspiciously harsh if they clamp down on Lewis for this.

Actually it was more like 10-11 seconds after the yellow flags came out, that Hamilton completed sector two. He definitely had ample time to react to the yellow flags coming out and adjust his speed accordingly, not to mention clearly seeing Bottas trudging through the gravel before he crossed the timing beam (while setting a personal best), but I guess it'll come down to the telemetry to see whether he made any attempt to slow down at all.

XQR · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:26 pm

codename_47 wrote:

TV Director played that 3 times in a desperate attempt to get Lewis a penalty....

Alright FIA, true colours showing today eh :whistling:

Are you just trolling at this point or do you genuinely believe all this?

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:40 pm

TBF IDC if they find bullshit ways to send both Mercedes to the back, the race probably needs it.

Karan · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:53 pm

Interesting to see just how much slower all the Ferrari powered cars were today compared to 2019 Austria qualifying. What a massive regression around such a short track. Really makes you wonder about that dodgy engine they were running last year...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1279497709532012544[/tweet]

Yea Mattia keep telling everyone the drop off is due to your aerodynamics package. 2020 car is 0.5 second down on the 2019 car before even the second braking point of the lap. Gee I wonder how the aerodynamics could be costing them so much down the straights...

Karan · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:07 pm

All clear for Hamilton on the yellow flag incident.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:12 pm

Meanwhile, in tweets copied and pasted from 2010 with the names changed:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status/1279347621577007104[/tweet]

"Max broke his front wing so we're taking yours so he can have the 1 that's left because he's our favourite. But in 6 races time we'll fire you for not being as fast as him. Good luck on your own, bye!"

Gaara · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:13 pm

Also

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15034 ... l-reminder

Naughty...

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:16 pm

they should use that one

UNDER INVESTIGATION: "car #5 for not wearing facemasks during the race weekend"

later in the race

5 SECONDS PENALTY for car #5 regarding non use of facemask

iks · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:59 pm

LucasWheldon wrote:

they should use that one

UNDER INVESTIGATION: "car #5 for not wearing facemasks during the race weekend"

later in the race

~~5 SECONDS PENALTY~~ $40 million fine for car #5 regarding non use of facemask

Fabs · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:21 pm

Karan wrote:

Interesting to see just how much slower all the Ferrari powered cars were today compared to 2019 Austria qualifying. What a massive regression around such a short track. Really makes you wonder about that dodgy engine they were running last year...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1279497709532012544[/tweet]

Yea Mattia keep telling everyone the drop off is due to your aerodynamics package. 2020 car is 0.5 second down on the 2019 car before even the second braking point of the lap. Gee I wonder how the aerodynamics could be costing them so much down the straights...

They certainly wanted a car with more aero downforce because they clearly lacked that last year. Perhaps they overdid it and now have drag AND a diminished engine.

XQR · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:24 pm

Even if they were cheating last year, to lose a second that is almost entirely attributed to the engine performance? I didn't think you can go backwards like that by accident.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:46 am

The engine thing has been covered up

webbsy · PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:22 am

Yeah the secret "deal" they got that no body can see what the investigation was or what the analysis was. Basically I think Ferrari pulled the whole "WE ARE FERRARI THERFORE WE ARE F1!!!!" probably threatened to quit and Liberty/FIA caved. That is the only explanation for it.

Or Jean Todt's mafia mates were supplying them parts.........

Fabs · PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:49 am

XQR wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

TV Director played that 3 times in a desperate attempt to get Lewis a penalty....

Alright FIA, true colours showing today eh :whistling:

Are you just trolling at this point or do you genuinely believe all this?

He's always like that, I suggest using the ignore function. It's quite useful.

You'll see him in full spasm later today when Lewis will have won by 20 secs and he'll still downplay it.

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:50 pm

It's going to rain...on Monday.

But then there's a good chance that next weekend is rainy for real.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:54 pm

Leclerc and Verstappen said on Twitter that they won't be kneeling. People are sniping at them, saying their reputation will be forever tarnished, that they are "fucking weak", "if you're not willing to perform a formal gesture against racism because it could be controversial, then why should I expect you to take real action against racism", etc etc.

It's not Austria the knee protest is about, isn't it? So I don't see the issue at not kneeling during Austria's anthem. Austria. Not the USA. We are in Austria. Has Austria widespread issues of police brutality and racism? Is this really such a big deal to not kneel?

I am surely missing something, and I do really get the point of Kaepernick's actions. But people are really quick to judgement here.

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:00 pm

RB have complained about Hamilton not getting a penalty

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/15035 ... der-review

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