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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:16 pm 
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Worth the gamble. Even if Albon is no better, or worse, Max's points alone have already guaranteed 3rd in the WCC. And if he is better, they might get a stab at 2nd.

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Red Bull is only 44 points behind Ferrari. Which is not an insurmountable gap - Totally worth the shot.

I think the demotion of Gasly is totally explainable. I think the minimum expected for a driver at Red Bull would be consistently at the top 6, which he failed while Verstappen battles for wins. He is on the verge of being beaten by Sainz, which would be awesome if he was still driving for Toro Rosso. And despite Red Bull favors Verstappen, I really doubt they were giving such worse equipment for Gasly.

However, this move exposes the poor moment of Red Bull driving program with the feeder team, which was supposed to give the mileage necessary to promising drivers, hosting two drivers who were demoted from the top team at a given point of their careers.


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Meanwhile.. https://www.grandprix.com/news/magnusse ... break.html

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First reaction: She hot?
Second reaction: ofcourse she'll be hot, he is rich and famous.
Look her up: blond, model, long, hot. Big surprise.

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Perhaps if RedBull was a little less cut-throat with their drivers, that would give them a better environment in which they'd focus on expressing their talent rather than living in the constant pressure of not-being-Max.

I am no big fan of Gasly in particular. It's just that I find RB's way of treating drivers shameful, and even counter-productive. They destroy people. I'm pretty sure that for all the talent he has, if Sainz had gone through them, he'd not be as strong as he is today being at a team that gives him the confidence and stability to progress his driving and experience in such a spectacular way.

I also like Albon and I'm afraid for his future, it all feels way too quick. It worked for Verstappen because he is that one talent in a million, you can't expect all drivers to be like that. Many greats have started pretty clumsy and picked up steam with stability experience.


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Yeah, this move will either make or break Albon and, judging by Marko's gung-ho attitude when it comes to P45s for drivers not called Max, it could well be the latter for Albon. He's very talented, that's clear, but is he on a similar level to Max? Or will common sense play out and being 4th/5th/6th be enough of an improvement over, well, 4th/5th/6th?


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Meanwhile.. https://www.grandprix.com/news/magnusse ... break.html

"Kevin. Do you take Louise Gjorup to be your lawful wedd..."

"Suck my balls honey" :-)


so did he met her after chopping in front of her car on traffic?

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thestig88 wrote:
Meanwhile.. https://www.grandprix.com/news/magnusse ... break.html

"Kevin. Do you take Louise Gjorup to be your lawful wedd..."

"Suck my balls honey" :-)


so did he met her after chopping in front of her car on traffic?


Don't know, but I bet he was first to the buffet table after shoulder barging everyone else out of the way.

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Perhaps if RedBull was a little less cut-throat with their drivers, that would give them a better environment in which they'd focus on expressing their talent rather than living in the constant pressure of not-being-Max.

I am no big fan of Gasly in particular. It's just that I find RB's way of treating drivers shameful, and even counter-productive. They destroy people. I'm pretty sure that for all the talent he has, if Sainz had gone through them, he'd not be as strong as he is today being at a team that gives him the confidence and stability to progress his driving and experience in such a spectacular way.

I also like Albon and I'm afraid for his future, it all feels way too quick. It worked for Verstappen because he is that one talent in a million, you can't expect all drivers to be like that. Many greats have started pretty clumsy and picked up steam with stability experience.
I agree, I know Marko is part of it but think Horner probably needs to think quite hard about the culture he creates in the team given how Red Bull keeps getting through drivers

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Let's face it....red bull would be a 1 car team if the rules allowed it

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Speaking of 1 car teams - if they want more entries, they should be allowed

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If they want to run one car, let them. If they want to run three cars let them. If they want to run different liveries on each car let them. If they want to run different liveries on a car throughout the year let them just so long as they don't do a Vettel and have a different each race.


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Agree on all points except for mid-season livery changes. Stability is good to keep viewers hooked and make it easier to identify with and follow a driver/team through a whole season if not several.

I'm saying this as someone who follows Indycar episodically (highlights only, except for a few lives races or extended highlights depending on broadcast times), and those constant changes make it a bit harder and annoying to follow even as you have historical knowledge of all the drivers and teams. It's a marginal point of course, but someone less informed is easily lost.

Maybe have them define a dominant color at the start and of course accept sponsors come and go. Obviously I don't see Pepsi advertising their brand onto a Coke-Red car but that's an extreme case :p


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I believe that if they allow different sponsorship liveries per race top teams would get better deals while sponsors will pay less yet have great exposure for sponsoring winning cars while the backmarkers will have to run sponsorless and without proper financial backing fade away

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Midseason livery changes would allow smaller teams to sign sponsorships with much smaller or highly localised companies for one-race deals at a vastly discounted rate (compared to a whole season), but could potentially end up making more money over the season as a result.

For example, Haas only charged Hobo Rasputin just over $10 million for a title sponsorship and several prominent logos on the car as well as the colour scheme. That would have come to less than $500,000 per weekend had the contract been fulfilled, and a lot of that value would have been in the title sponsorship. If they could sell the logo space piecemeal, they could end up charging a lot more for it per weekend, assuming that there was a particularly enterprising Commercial Director. Look at the portfolio Juncos were able to put together after sending Alonso home in May.

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ah the throwback round, should be at Monaco, at least the race wouldn't be so boring

Ferrari with the 95 livery
Mercedes with the 70's blue Tyrrell
Red Bull with the British Racing Green from Jaguar
McLaren with the Lowenbrau
Racing Point with the green Jordan 191
Williams with the 93 livery
Alfa Romeo with the 93 Sauber livery
Haas picking one of their nascar liveries
Toro Rosso with the 85 Minardi
Renault with the classic livery of turbo era

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What current limitations are there around changing sponsorship through the year? If Haas can change Rich Energy logos and Ferrari can choose to replace Mission Chuffnow race by race, do those changes need special approval by the FIA ahead of each race or is there a certain amount of lattitude allowed for sponsorship changes?

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They could make the livery rules similar to the helmet ones. Maybe just 1 or 2 changes per year. That way they could do something special for the sponsor, driver or team home race. Just think of all the extra merchandise the teams could sell for that race too! haha


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LucasWheldon wrote:
ah the throwback round, should be at Monaco, at least the race wouldn't be so boring

Ferrari with the 95 livery
Mercedes with the 70's blue Tyrrell
Red Bull with the British Racing Green from Jaguar
McLaren with the Lowenbrau
Racing Point with the green Jordan 191
Williams with the 93 livery
Alfa Romeo with the 93 Sauber livery
Haas picking one of their nascar liveries
Toro Rosso with the 85 Minardi
Renault with the classic livery of turbo era




Yes, but shouldn't Haas run this instead?
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And Alfa should use their 80's livery.
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But no, we get a race in Saudi Arabia instead.

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