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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:22 am 
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De Cesaris fan wrote:
The old circuit would be incredible with DRS, if there was a detection zone at every chicane to allow re-passing.

This was one hell of a battle as well (Caption is wrong - it's 1981).



In which we find out that Prost is a massive hypocrite and was throwing blocks all over the place way before Senna was in the sport.

The new track is pretty good for overtaking, annoyingly, I think a lot of our moaning was quelled a bit when Kimi and JPM went side by side for multiple corners and proved the track could allow these cars to overtake each other



(Unless you were watching on ITV at the time, then you were on an ad-break and they only replayed the very end of the move, good job guys :lol: )

The layout is also pretty damn great for DTM and especially F3/F4 and other lower level open wheel series, always good racing from them here
(And they flip a lot in that corner coming off the hairpin too, always helps :P )

Expecting good tast from this weekend at least.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:02 am 
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Rain update: Saturday looks to have the only potential for some rain.


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Echti wrote:
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Also wasn't it that F1 demanded the changes, a shorter track so there'd be more laps for the spectators to see the cars?


Not entirely. F1 "only" demanded a circuit upgrade with bigger runoff areas, wider track and so on. They never asked for a shorter track. The local goverment there at Baden-Württemberg came up with the idea to shorten the track and to increase spectator capacity (just look at that massive grandstand at the final turn).

Nurburgring's Castrol-S chicane was modified on similar grounds too, creating that complex where the public can see the cars for more time.

My best spectating has been done from spots where you barely see the cars for a few seconds. Those spots where your lungs shake from the engine sound, your eyes barely keep up with the speed of direction changes, where you feel the wind from passing cars and end the day covered in tyre marbles and brake pad soot.

Who wants to watch a car for 20 seconds from afar, dragging itself painstakingly slowly on a go-kart section surrounded by tarmac?


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The shortening of the track was partly due to that idiot who ran across the track in the 2000 race.

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best spectating spot was the tunnel at Monaco, when the engines reached 18000 revs on a V10

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That's not spectating, that's listening :lol:

Deafening if anything

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:33 pm 
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well, you can see the blur of passing cars while holding your ears and also some lucky marhsalls saw some crashes right in the end

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Fabs wrote:
Rain update: Saturday looks to have the only potential for some rain.

Latest: most say no rain all weekend long.

Update: thunderstorms tomorrow :8:


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I thought one of the reasons was also that Bernie wanted to have shorter tracks so that spectators would have more value for money. If cars are passing 60 times or 40 times people are willing to pay more.


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Whatever the reason I hate that they had to destroy the old track.

I always loved the old layout, I loved that it offered a unique challenge & was unlike anything else on the calendar. Watching the cars blast through the forest at 200mph+ as they tried to hit the braking points into the 3 very different chicanes & then go through the stadium section with next to no downforce on the cars was always fun to watch.

The new layout is dull & uninteresting, It's not a bad circuit but it's also just not especially good. There's nothing unique about it & it lacks anything that makes it stand out from other circuits.


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I don't know if it's a bump or if it's just the balance shift when they disable DRS (Or maybe a combination of the 2) but from the OnBoards i've seen a few cars moving around quite a bit going into turn 1.

I saw it happen to Vandoorne earlier & it looked really weird & for a split second I was convinced he was about to fly off the track.


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I'll always favor the old track, but I like the Parabolica corner, hairpin and run to the next corner. On a good day, it provides some spectacular racing.

McLaren fastest in FP2, ahead of both Williams cars, and then the second McLaren. Realistic in the 90's, possible in the 00's, only for those who turn the results up side down in the 10's.

Oh dear McLaren, can't blame it on the engines now can you?


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I don't know if it's a bump or if it's just the balance shift when they disable DRS (Or maybe a combination of the 2) but from the OnBoards i've seen a few cars moving around quite a bit going into turn 1.

I saw it happen to Vandoorne earlier & it looked really weird & for a split second I was convinced he was about to fly off the track.

That's just the Mclaren being a shitty car.


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aerogi wrote:
I thought one of the reasons was also that Bernie wanted to have shorter tracks so that spectators would have more value for money. If cars are passing 60 times or 40 times people are willing to pay more.


That's something I always thought it's wrong in F1: To stick with the ~300 km race distance, no matter which racetrack they're in.

Why not make it a 450k race, or something similar? You get more laps, race becomes unique, more challenge for drivers and teams. Same can happen now at Monza, where races lasts just over an hour.

The reconfiguration of the racetrack, happened at times when teams used 1 engine per race and they refuelled during the race. It was stupid for them to butcher the track as their only option.


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Fabs wrote:
StefMeister wrote:
I don't know if it's a bump or if it's just the balance shift when they disable DRS (Or maybe a combination of the 2) but from the OnBoards i've seen a few cars moving around quite a bit going into turn 1.

I saw it happen to Vandoorne earlier & it looked really weird & for a split second I was convinced he was about to fly off the track.

That's just the Mclaren being a shitty car.


I love the nostalgic 2001 season feeling I’m getting as 2018 draws on...

...Ferrari leading
...McLaren and Williams close on performance
...Alonso driving for a back marker team

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...The second Ferrari driver being number 1's bitch


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:38 am 
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Rain is on its way so expect a busy FP3.


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Hamilton won't take part in FP3 as he's apparently feeling very unwell.


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Vettel's neck last race weekend and now Hamilton feeling unwell

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