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Vainqueur des 24H du Mans 2014?
Poll ended at Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:52 pm
Audi 38%  38%  [ 26 ]
Toyota 34%  34%  [ 23 ]
Porsche 16%  16%  [ 11 ]
Rebellion 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
Nissan (kneel before) ZEOD 6%  6%  [ 4 ]
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probably a concussion then, or precaution against one anyway


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StanV wrote:
I think dipping into mid-20's *is* possible, but we may never know if tomorrow is as red as today.

Possibly the laptimes at 3-4am during the race will come down a bit more, but those fuel regs are so tricky.

What about the fuel regs, you mean purposeful coasting to save fuel? Unlike in F1, the limit is per lap not per race, so you can't really save fuel for later use.


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deggis wrote:
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I think dipping into mid-20's *is* possible, but we may never know if tomorrow is as red as today.

Possibly the laptimes at 3-4am during the race will come down a bit more, but those fuel regs are so tricky.

What about the fuel regs, you mean purposeful coasting to save fuel? Unlike in F1, the limit is per lap not per race, so you can't really save fuel for later use.


But that means that there effectively is a ceiling-effect (cellar, in fact :p) in terms of what can be attained on a lap-by-lap basis, right? I mean that it might not be possible to see cars going a second underneath their qualy-lap because the fuel restricts them to get that little bit extra on a lap


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According to EI (Mercier), it is still likely that Gene will replace Duval. Oliver Turvey is being lined up at Jota Sport

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/loic-d ... marc-gene/


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StanV wrote:
deggis wrote:
What about the fuel regs, you mean purposeful coasting to save fuel? Unlike in F1, the limit is per lap not per race, so you can't really save fuel for later use.


But that means that there effectively is a ceiling-effect (cellar, in fact :p) in terms of what can be attained on a lap-by-lap basis, right? I mean that it might not be possible to see cars going a second underneath their qualy-lap because the fuel restricts them to get that little bit extra on a lap

True, but the usual things still help, temperature, drivers zoning in and pushing, generally taking more out of the engine if needed. And assuming that the cars seriously try to get the pole. Now the window to do it might be a bit short with the reduced running time.


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You have the biggest sporting event in Europe, and yet it is amazing how many incidents/crashes they can miss... I understand it ain't easy to have camera around such a large track, but still, it amazes me.


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You have the biggest sporting event in Europe, and yet it is amazing how many incidents/crashes they can miss... I understand it ain't easy to have camera around such a large track, but still, it amazes me.


Problem is that they don't offer full circuit coverage during the practice sessions unfortunately. Don't ask me why...


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Yesterday Martin Haven explained that if there is no camera around a large part of the track that's because the road are open after qualifications.


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Yesterday Martin Haven explained that if there is no camera around a large part of the track that's because the road are open after qualifications.


I don't understand why that could possibly be a reason?


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Has been this way forever. Since those roads are usually quite busy (especially Les Hunaudières), they are opened all through Friday. Can't really have tons of cables/equipment laying around.


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StanV wrote:
Has been this way forever. Since those roads are usually quite busy (especially Les Hunaudières), they are opened all through Friday. Can't really have tons of cables/equipment laying around.


You don't have to have the state of the art equipment I think for that purpose.

Yesterday we were looking at a broadcast, and commentators had not a clue why the last red flag was shown for example. It looked really very amateuristic broadcasting, and that for such a big event.


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StanV wrote:
According to EI (Mercier), it is still likely that Gene will replace Duval. Oliver Turvey is being lined up at Jota Sport

http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/loic-d ... marc-gene/


Confirmed :(

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Marc Gené will replace Loïc Duval at the wheel of the No. 1 Audi #R18 #LM24 @FIAWEC @24hoursoflemans -- Audi Sport (@Audi__Sport)


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kevinholden wrote:
Yesterday Martin Haven explained that if there is no camera around a large part of the track that's because the road are open after qualifications.


The TV cameras are already set up around the circuit. They are just not operated. And that's what I don't really understand.


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Doesn't France have some really odd working hour laws? I recall that being given as a reason for a lack of TV camera coverage in previous years?


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Imagine that in the world cup we would have only one still camera for anything that happens before the match (warming up, interviews, anthems etc), and then for the match a whole bunch of cameras.

I mean, we are 2014, right?


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aerogi wrote:
kevinholden wrote:
Yesterday Martin Haven explained that if there is no camera around a large part of the track that's because the road are open after qualifications.


I don't understand why that could possibly be a reason?
aerogi wrote:
StanV wrote:
Has been this way forever. Since those roads are usually quite busy (especially Les Hunaudières), they are opened all through Friday. Can't really have tons of cables/equipment laying around.


You don't have to have the state of the art equipment I think for that purpose.

Yesterday we were looking at a broadcast, and commentators had not a clue why the last red flag was shown for example. It looked really very amateuristic broadcasting, and that for such a big event.
aerogi wrote:
You have the biggest sporting event in Europe, and yet it is amazing how many incidents/crashes they can miss... I understand it ain't easy to have camera around such a large track, but still, it amazes me.

aerogi wrote:
Imagine that in the world cup we would have only one still camera for anything that happens before the match (warming up, interviews, anthems etc), and then for the match a whole bunch of cameras.

I mean, we are 2014, right?


Is there something you would like to add, or are we done with this? Yes, think if football fans was as spoiled as we are that international TV would air all their practice sessions.

With Gene in the car, it is not very likely that #1 will be a hare, is it? :(


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This camera-discussion comes up every year. Waiting for the obligatory "are they just showing the pits and first corners?" on Saturday night :p


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Echti wrote:
kevinholden wrote:
Yesterday Martin Haven explained that if there is no camera around a large part of the track that's because the road are open after qualifications.


The TV cameras are already set up around the circuit. They are just not operated. And that's what I don't really understand.


AFAIK not the ones on the straights/chicanes and around Mulsanne?


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