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Author: | ellis [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:48 am ] |
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Anyone noticed the R18 at Monza has a longer tail? This is why private entries shouldn't even get close to works. Audi again turned up with a heavily modified car. |
Author: | deggis [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:34 pm ] |
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Yes: (non-langcheck) http://lemansprototypes.over-blog.it/ar ... 18880.html |
Author: | deggis [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:03 pm ] |
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2014 DP/LMP2 mess: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ ... gulations/ Quote: Wayne Taylor "They talked to us about how we can speed up our cars by 6 seconds. If that's the case, we might as well all throw our cars away. -- If Continental or someone else makes a new tire, that's one thing, but if we're going to stick to what we have and just find 6 seconds, you're talking about 75 horsepower, more aerodynamic devices, diffusers, wind tunnel work. -- Suddenly, most of your stuff is obsolete and all of the spares are obsolete. So I don't think it's realistic in them expecting us to do that.” "We don't need to do anything; we're the top class. -- We just invested $250,000 per car a year ago for Gen-3. As a Ford team, I'm also having to go to a turbo motor and another nose and bumper cover because we have new Ford stuff coming [for 2014]. -- So for me to have a [new] rear wing, diffuser, front splitter, it's pointless. As far as I'm concerned, we are the premier class in [USCR] and we shouldn't have to spend any more money to make our cars compatible with P2.” Michael Shank "There's a passionate group that want LMP racing; I get that. -- It's a very small minority compared to what the majority is right now. We just can't afford that. There are only a handful of Tucker’s, Dyson’s and Pickett's. In fact, half of them own [DP] cars. -- We're catering to four cars right now. These guys with the bucks, we know who they are, when they are going to be told that their car has to be dumbed down, let's see who we really have.” "Realistically speaking, I don't see any P2s coming to the series, and certainly not under the current rules and regulations. -- I don't understand really why they are looking at P2 because the car is clearly so much more effective [than the DP]. To speed us up would be monumental. -- With a DP program, you can race on Sunday and [sell] on Monday. I think over time this would be what the car manufacturers would be able to get their heads around and much more cost-effective than currently in ALMS or the WEC. -- I think there should be an obligation from the new series to protect the investment that's being made here. The sooner people recognize that it will be all DPs, the sooner car manufacturers are going to look at this.” Peter Baron "There's no way a P2 car can survive a 24-hour battle [at Daytona],” he said. “It's different at Le Mans when there's 50 cars over an 8-mile track. But when there's going to be 70 or 80 cars on a 3.5-mile track, with all the cars hitting each other... These cars come back battle scarred. The HPD is a great car and it can take a couple of hits. But it's not going to survive a scrum with a DP car over a 24 hour race at Daytona. -- I think the series needs to focus on putting out a benchmark. ‘Here's the DP. If you have a P2 car, we'll retain it, but if new people want to get involved in the series, then DP is the form to go with.’ Give it a grandfather clause for two years and by 2016 it would be a DP-only class." Ok then. GTE overall winner |
Author: | ptclaus98 [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:38 pm ] |
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Just fucking get rid of all P class racing in America |
Author: | Shane [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:31 am ] |
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No Prototypes won't end well.. |
Author: | ptclaus98 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:53 pm ] |
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It will work just as well as DP being the top class and no other protos being allowed to play in that GTE can be as great as it has been. |
Author: | fede999 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:59 pm ] |
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I knew from the start that the merger would have meant bye bye ALMS and a Grand-Am takeover. That's just another nail in the coffin. |
Author: | Woodski [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:01 pm ] |
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fede999 wrote: I knew from the start that the merger would have meant bye bye ALMS and a Grand-Am takeover. That's just another nail in the coffin. P cars were long dead before this. GTE was the main drawing for the ALMS, and it still will be after the merger. |
Author: | deggis [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:45 pm ] |
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2013 Toyo: rear wing now even more like the old full sized ones, hideous headlights http://newsroom.toyota.eu/image-gallery ... rrentTab=1 vs 2012: Spoiler: |
Author: | Fish88 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:54 pm ] |
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Don't think it looks that bad. |
Author: | Woodski [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:54 pm ] |
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Return of the super low rear wings? |
Author: | bigears [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:36 pm ] |
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Just like the cars from 1991-1993 with Peugeot, Mazda and Toyota doing something similar? Interesting to see Audi and Toyota playing around with their rear wings. |
Author: | ellis [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:30 am ] |
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Woodski wrote: Return of the super low rear wings? Yeah but the 2012 picture there is higher downforce layout anyway. It has the higher drag front end on it. The 2013 car in those photos is setup for low drag. Headlights aren't too ugly but aren't very pretty either. Could do with a bit of shaping for styling. But if it takes the fight to Audi then who cares. I still want Audi to win, but I want there to be a fight for it. But we already know the 2013 R18 is fast. |
Author: | Artur Craft [ Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:32 pm ] |
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I like the new headlights, and the car remains gorgeous imo Next weekend in Spa is gonna be very interesting |
Author: | Mattzel89 [ Thu May 02, 2013 6:07 pm ] |
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Dear weather gods who decided to change the forecasts from super sunny to rainy on saturday Fuck you |
Author: | StanV [ Thu May 02, 2013 6:13 pm ] |
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Should only be light rain though. |
Author: | Mattzel89 [ Thu May 02, 2013 6:34 pm ] |
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light rain and Spa. That doesnt sound right |
Author: | StanV [ Thu May 02, 2013 6:36 pm ] |
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"Light rain" in the Spa dictionary usually means you will just about come through the day only using 2 umbrellas and a pair of gumboots |
Author: | deggis [ Fri May 03, 2013 1:28 am ] |
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Rebellion is believed (John Dagys' tweet, DSC, some French site) to announce something interesting, building their own 2014 chassis with or without some partnership would qualify as interesting. And very important especially if they plan to sell it. |
Author: | Artur Craft [ Fri May 03, 2013 7:12 pm ] |
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Toyota seems to be in trouble this season. Their car N7 is the 2013 contender, right? It's fastest lap was slower than that of the 2012 one and even slower than Heidfeld's best in a Lola Plus, Audi is a country mile faster with their best time being in the 1.58.9 against a best of 2.00.5 from the best Toyota(the 2012 one) Hell, how can Heidfeld do 2.00.7 with a car that is supposed to be significantly slower than Audi/Toyota ? Great drive from him, Jani is nowhere near Quick Nick |
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