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Of course, but if 55 cars are driving in full competition, each within its respective class, then I really, really, really don't mind 1 car that's just driving around 'goalless'. I just don't see the problem, for me. Would you like it more if there were 5 Deltawings racing around in their own class?

I watch sportscar racing for the difference in cars. When I care so much about the ontrack racing, there's always IndyCar and stock cars. Way more on track action than a sportscar race.

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For everything but the beginning and final 2 hours, that is exactly what sportscar racing is, with or without the DeltaWing.

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It had a KERS system. The only thing outstanding about it was that it was a flywheel KERS. KERS had been in use on and off the track by the time that car came into fruition. I fail to see how it was more impressive than the materials and general less is more concepts that the DeltaWing uses. No wings, 250HP non stressed 4 cylinder, front tires smaller than the one on my 240sx, advanced and recyclable carbon fiber. The DW has way more going for it.

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Little bit more, but only if it wasn't a DW spec class (neither technically or practically).


You didn't get it. If there was no race, there would no "final 2 hours".


Similarly one can then say there is nothing groundbreaking in using lightweight composites. I'm not a huge believer in the road releavancy bullshit manufacturers like to put in their cheeky press releases, but for sure the DW's layout won't be much useful for real world sedans.

Actually I didn't say it was more impressive, because I would say DW is more impressive (I was impressed or surprised, because I expected it to fail miserably), but I still just don't like having it around. I would probably appreciate it more if it had never taken part any ACO race and would have stayed just some crazy project.

The layout won't, but recyclable carbon fiber is a huge step for the auto industry, and for a car with pace at such a high level to be running a non stressed four banger opens up the doors for the Koreans and any other emerging auto makers to come in and prove their product. Hell, you could see a turbocharged bike engined hybrid in one of these things. That'd be real interesting. That is, if they quit playing around and sold more of these cars to other teams.

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Unfortunately MotorsTV will be cutting away from Sebring for 2hrs from 4:30-6:30 to show a live AMA race from Daytona
http://www.motorstv.com/sites/default/files/contenu/pdf/prog/uk/20130316_20130322.pdf

At least they will be showing the finish live though.

DW only wasn't a complete fail because it runs out of regulations(massively underweighted, ground effects and etc).

The car is an engineering abomination(maybe they should add square wheels to it) and, to complete it's disgrace, it's the uggliest race car ever

DW, with no ground effect and 900Kg of weight, as other P1/P2 cars, even with same engine, will be absolutely trashed.

DW was always a PR gimmick and I deeply despise it



At least we have Audi Tv to cover those 2hrs, even if only from the R18s' POV

I give up because this reasoning pisses me off way too much. Let's hope they have a horrible wreck then, then you'll have your wish of it failing and never coming back. Jesus. Cannot believe I am reading this.

I'll get back to this topic once Sebring comes around.

Come on, man. Can't we dislike a car/project?

Of course you can! I disliked the Maserati MC12 and the teams using it when it was racing around in SRO series. But that doesn't mean that I wanted it and its teams to collapse or that I wished it never would have existed. Without it, it'd been a whole lot less interesting.

It's just the whole "I don't like it! I hope they do horribly and leave!" thing I don't get.

I rest my case, see you in Sebring

(at least we've added a couple of pages of spiciness to this thread now)

As long as you aren't hypocritical about it.

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Renault returning to Le Mans in 2014?

How epic will Le Mans next year be? Audi, Porsche (still don't know if/why VAG will support 2 Le Mans efforts), Toyota and Renault.

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news ... o-le-mans/

LOL at complaining about one car lessening "competition" in a multi-class racing series.

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too good to be true, I'm afraid

Plus, in which facility would Renault design it's car? Enstone's doesn't belong to them anymore, they would need to "rent" a good one as Audi does with Sauber's, afaik

Did you actually read it... in LMP2 (initially)

LMP2 Powered by Renault-Nissan coalition, that can't be ideal in terms of politicking etc.

Surely with Nissan beginning to push into P1 soon, Renaults goal is just to replace Nissan in P2.

With the new F1 V6 being compatible with LMP regulations a comeback could be pretty close. Still just speculating ofcourse.

You said "how epic it will be next year"

The way I understand the rumor: LMP2 for 2014 and LMP1 at the earliest 2015 if ever... -1 year to both would mean pretty quick development time.

++ http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ ... pe-return/

One of the soures for this is a local newspaper. Announcement on Friday, at Le Mans. Hopefully less anti-climatic than Nissan's was.