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Spot the odd ones out, 1981 "CART" race

mclaren2008 wrote:

Spot the odd ones out, 1981 "CART" race

Ah, the good ol' CART-USAC wars.

That actually was a USAC sanctioned race that apparently CART pulled out of (as they had in 1979). From what I understand, most of the top talent was on the CART side of the fence... not too many Indy cars entered, hence the Silver Crown cars were called on to make up the field.

The 1981-82 USAC "Gold Crown" championship also included dirt tracks. That's probably an odd championship in itself, I assume they were *not* running the winged speedway type cars at those tracks...

I really miss Justin

Awww no Friday practice sessions, lame

It's going to be hard to watch this race after last year. I'm fully aware it was a freak accident, but damn, every lap will be a reminder.

I really miss Justin

codename_47 wrote:

Yeaa it'll be hard. Honestly I still can't believe he's gone because of how small an accident it actually was. You see all the big accidents all the time and they walk away. With Justin it was just a bit of debris from someone elses crash. That's what I really can't get my head around.

Author:	racer612008 [ Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:57 pm ]
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Race Information: 2.5 mile mildly banked tri-oval 14° degrees of banking in Turn 1, 9° degrees of banking in turn 2, 6° degrees of banking in turn 3 200 laps, 500 miles Entry Lists: Verizon IndyCar Series @ Pocono - 22 cars currently entered Spotter Guides: Verizon IndyCar Series Pit Lane Assignments: LINK Schedule (all times local to the circuit/US-Eastern): Spoiler: Saturday, August 20 9:30AM - Verizon IndyCar Series - Practice #1 11:00AM - Vintage IndyCars - Practice #1 1:30PM - Verizon IndyCar Series - Qualifying 2:55PM - Vintage IndyCars - Practice #2 5:00PM - Verizon IndyCar Series - Practice #2 5:40PM - Vintage IndyCars - Practice #3 Sunday, August 21 1:00PM - Vintage IndyCars - Exhibition Laps 3:00PM - VICS ABC Supply 500 @ Pocono - Race Notes: All times are local to the circuit (US-Eastern) Television/Streaming Information: Spoiler: Official Streams: all non-televised sessions for the Verizon IndyCar Series will be streamed on racecontrol.indycar.com United States: NBC Sports Network/NBC Sports App Sunday, August 21 12:00AM - IndyCar \| Qualifying (TAPE DELAYED) 3:00PM - IndyCar \| Race (LIVE) All times are in US-Eastern: Past Winners: Spoiler: Verizon IndyCar Series 2015 - Ryan Hunter-Reay 2014 - Juan Pablo Montoya 2013 - Scott Dixon CART 1989 - Danny Sullivan 1988 - Bobby Rahal 1987 - Rick Mears 1986 - Mario Andretti 1985 - Rick Mears 1984 - Danny Sullivan 1983 - Teo Fabi 1982 - Rick Mears USAC Championship Car 1981 - A.J. Foyt 1980 - Bobby Unser 1979 - A.J. Foyt 1978 - Al Unser 1977 - Tom Sneva 1976 - Al Unser 1975 - A.J. Foyt 1974 - Johnny Rutherford 1973 - A.J. Foyt 1972 - Joe Leonard 1971 - Mark Donohue

Author:	westracing01 [ Wed Aug 17, 2016 3:01 pm ]
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I was just going to ask for a spotters guide for this too. Need the radio frequencies for the scanner. Also hearing that the grandstand is close to sold out, or at least the number of tickets they are offering are nearly sold out. That's what a friend of my boss was told when he called for tickets anyway.

Author:	gkmotorsport [ Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:32 pm ]
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Pippa Mann getting a surprising amount of abuse for daring to announce a drive this weekend - seems a little harsh; there are far worse... She will be driving the merry-go-round #19, and Daly the #18, both with Bryan Clauson tributes. Also JW tributes I believe.

Author:	Shane [ Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:53 pm ]
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Dear lord baby Jesus, Please have people show up to this race. And watch it.

Author:	ChrisTRD [ Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:50 pm ]
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I wanted to go to this but having a new born plus my father putting on a family bbq put it out of reach for me. I will definitely be watching though.

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Author:	Coldtyre [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:14 am ]
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Author:	mclaren2008 [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:25 am ]
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Spot the odd ones out, 1981 "CART" race

Author:	Juihi [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:14 am ]
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Surely the midget type cars wouldn't have been compeditive?

Author:	mclaren2008 [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:53 am ]
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Silver Crowns actually They had a short field and decided to let them race to make up the numbers

Author:	electrodevo [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:54 pm ]
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mclaren2008 wrote: Spot the odd ones out, 1981 "CART" race Ah, the good ol' CART-USAC wars. That actually was a USAC sanctioned race that apparently CART pulled out of (as they had in 1979). From what I understand, most of the top talent was on the CART side of the fence... not too many Indy cars entered, hence the Silver Crown cars were called on to make up the field. The 1981-82 USAC "Gold Crown" championship also included dirt tracks. That's probably an odd championship in itself, I assume they were not running the winged speedway type cars at those tracks...

Author:	mclaren2008 [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:15 pm ]
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It is rather interesting that CART itself was originally formed out of a "split" in AOWR - just the same as IRL Big difference is that USAC allowed them to run the Indy 500

Author:	westracing01 [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:24 pm ]
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electrodevo wrote: mclaren2008 wrote: Spot the odd ones out, 1981 "CART" race Ah, the good ol' CART-USAC wars. That actually was a USAC sanctioned race that apparently CART pulled out of (as they had in 1979). From what I understand, most of the top talent was on the CART side of the fence... not too many Indy cars entered, hence the Silver Crown cars were called on to make up the field. The 1981-82 USAC "Gold Crown" championship also included dirt tracks. That's probably an odd championship in itself, I assume they were not running the winged speedway type cars at those tracks... Back in the early 70's the USAC National Championship consisted of Pavement ovals, Dirt Ovals and Road Courses (1, Sears Point.) It was a true National Championship since you had to be good on everything to win. They ran the rear engine Indycars on the pavement and road course and the Silver Crown cars on the dirt.

Author:	SBan83 [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:16 pm ]
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^ That's a true championship right there. Today Indycar fans brag about how it's the most diverse series but that's just rubbish.

Author:	codename_47 [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:34 pm ]
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Awww no Friday practice sessions, lame It's going to be hard to watch this race after last year. I'm fully aware it was a freak accident, but damn, every lap will be a reminder. I really miss Justin

Author:	MotoKris1 [ Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:18 pm ]
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We have first practice now, still no stream, yellow flag for Hunter Ray crash according to chat. Aleshin have best lap speed of 221 MPH so far

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Author:	gkmotorsport [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:44 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote: I really miss Justin +1

Author:	Gaara [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:52 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote: Awww no Friday practice sessions, lame It's going to be hard to watch this race after last year. I'm fully aware it was a freak accident, but damn, every lap will be a reminder. I really miss Justin Yeaa it'll be hard. Honestly I still can't believe he's gone because of how small an accident it actually was. You see all the big accidents all the time and they walk away. With Justin it was just a bit of debris from someone elses crash. That's what I really can't get my head around.

Author:	gkmotorsport [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:26 pm ]
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Gaara wrote: codename_47 wrote: Awww no Friday practice sessions, lame It's going to be hard to watch this race after last year. I'm fully aware it was a freak accident, but damn, every lap will be a reminder. I really miss Justin Yeaa it'll be hard. Honestly I still can't believe he's gone because of how small an accident it actually was. You see all the big accidents all the time and they walk away. With Justin it was just a bit of debris from someone elses crash. That's what I really can't get my head around. I think that's the worst part of it really - it does (and did) seem like a fairly nothing accident, but then you think about the mass and forces at work

Author:	Whofan [ Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:30 pm ]
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Can't believe its been a year already, it still seems like such a fresh memory

Author:	Mitchell [ Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:36 pm ]
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Man everyone is right a year ago we lost Justin Wilson. Man still can't believe he's gone such a freak accident. All I'm saying is I hope no one gets hurt in the race this year I'm hoping.