2017 WTCC Discussion

Gaara · PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:46 pm

*facepalm*

what a stupid thing to do, make the cars alot more expensive. Are they trying to kill WTCC?

kart99 · PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:47 pm

That's a lot more than I thought it was. Hmm.

Metzo · PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:58 pm

kals wrote:

Metzo wrote:

they will have around 380 hp

Thanks Metzo, how much of an increase is this?

according to ray mollock around 20%

pimmy wrote:

They're supposedly 2.5 times more expensive than the old ones.

the new cars will cost around 600-700k € , a current civic costs 420k €

kart99 wrote:

Honda's WTCC entry

looks fantastic

kals · PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:28 pm

Gaara wrote:

*facepalm*

what a stupid thing to do, make the cars alot more expensive. Are they trying to kill WTCC?

NGTC cars were hugely more expensive to build than the old cars and some in the series continuously complained about the additional costs, yet BTCC is in fine health.

pimmy · PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:51 pm

2014 Calendar officially announced

- The Suzuka round will be on the full circuit (they made a GOOD decision

, there's a first time for everything I suppose)
- It's good that they have a round in France again, but it's utterly stupid that it comes at the expense of the Italian round. Considering how supportive the Italians have been of international touring car racing throughout it's history, plus the fact that this series can trace it's lineage directly back to the old Italian Super Touring championship makes it a really poor choice. Monza also produced some of the best racing in the series.

Metzo · PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:59 pm

yes monza is a big loss, at least they will still race at the salzburgring which is a smiliar track.

gd49 · PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:00 pm

pimmy wrote:

2014 Calendar officially announced

- The Suzuka round will be on the full circuit (they made a GOOD decision

, there's a first time for everything I suppose)
- It's good that they have a round in France again, but it's utterly stupid that it comes at the expense of the Italian round. Considering how supportive the Italians have been of international touring car racing throughout it's history, plus the fact that this series can trace it's lineage directly back to the old Italian Super Touring championship makes it a really poor choice. Monza also produced some of the best racing in the series.

Agreed great shame to lose Monza, the support races were usually good there too. Will be interesting to see if the additional power makes the cars a bit less dull on F1 circuits.

Xen · PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:07 pm

They shouldn't have made this decision. More aero means more difficult to follow the car in front during corners. They should look at what was BTCC in the 1990s. Simple, yet lot of nice tech bits, and great track action!

Fish88 · PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:07 am

Damm the WTCC car's look so awesome, Lada + Honda dayum!!!

Woodski · PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:12 am

kals wrote:

Gaara wrote:

Wel they've managed good wheel arches, why an't the others?

Because Honda's photo is a professional studio shoot, versus shots of cars not yet completely built or developed.

professional CG render

kals · PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:02 am

Thanks, I did wonder. Kind of emphasizes my point even more then.

rallyman69 · PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:31 pm

funny video with Yvan Muller and Sebastien Loeb
[dailymotion]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x188i64_yvan-muller-teaches-sebastien-loeb-about-wtcc_auto[/dailymotion]

pimmy · PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:59 pm

ROAL Chevys for Coronel & Chilton

Gaara · PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:06 pm

Glad to see Coronel get a drive, he was worried he might not be in WTCC next year.

Fish88 · PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:17 pm

Cool Chilton paying for Coronels ride.

aerogi · PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:22 pm

pimmy wrote:

2014 Calendar officially announced

- The Suzuka round will be on the full circuit (they made a GOOD decision

, there's a first time for everything I suppose)
- It's good that they have a round in France again, but it's utterly stupid that it comes at the expense of the Italian round. Considering how supportive the Italians have been of international touring car racing throughout it's history, plus the fact that this series can trace it's lineage directly back to the old Italian Super Touring championship makes it a really poor choice. Monza also produced some of the best racing in the series.

I guess the fact Citroën entered this series, helped to get a French spot on the calendar.
Good thing that Suzuka will use the full circuit
sad to see the Italian round go.

aerogi · PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:25 pm

But I still think this calendar totally sucks regarding timeline.

Jun 22: Spa
then 5-6 weeks nothing

then Aug 3rd Argentina

then again 5-6 weeks nothing

Sep14 next round...

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:26 am

Eurosport are showing a Season Review already, which is repeated quite a few times over Christmas, keep a lookout for it

(Without MotoGP filling up their schedules they're finding it hard to fill time over Christmas it seems. Eurosport 2 will be repeating the entire Rallycross and Speedway GP seasons race by race, which is pretty sweet. And on the weekend before Christmas (also repeated a few times) they're showing the entire Goodwood revival too, a longer show than ITV's highlights

)

Maybe 2014 is the year Eurosport will start to suck slightly less?

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:01 am

codename_47 wrote:

Eurosport are showing a Season Review already, which is repeated quite a few times over Christmas, keep a lookout for it

(Without MotoGP filling up their schedules they're finding it hard to fill time over Christmas it seems. Eurosport 2 will be repeating the entire Rallycross and Speedway GP seasons race by race, which is pretty sweet. And on the weekend before Christmas (also repeated a few times) they're showing the entire Goodwood revival too, a longer show than ITV's highlights

)

Maybe 2014 is the year Eurosport will start to suck slightly less?

St. Mary's Trophy at Goodwood is the race of the year IMO. If they show that entire race (only 25 minutes), I would be so happy.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:06 pm

dicksplaash wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

Eurosport are showing a Season Review already, which is repeated quite a few times over Christmas, keep a lookout for it

(Without MotoGP filling up their schedules they're finding it hard to fill time over Christmas it seems. Eurosport 2 will be repeating the entire Rallycross and Speedway GP seasons race by race, which is pretty sweet. And on the weekend before Christmas (also repeated a few times) they're showing the entire Goodwood revival too, a longer show than ITV's highlights

)

Maybe 2014 is the year Eurosport will start to suck slightly less?

St. Mary's Trophy at Goodwood is the race of the year IMO. If they show that entire race (only 25 minutes), I would be so happy.

Was that the one with the flipping mini?

I managed to catch about half of it on its live stream (only realising that they'd consented to live streaming after about half of the sunday action had taken place!) but it had no commentary so I wasn't sure which race was which

But yeah, all the races I managed to see were great.

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