BTCC Rd. 3 @ Thruxton 4th-5th May 2013

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:32 pm

ITV4 is showing the first F4 race later too, I hope that series dies on its arse and they all come and run FFords...

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:33 pm

Better off doing FF, better crowds and telly coverage.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:34 pm

Or have FFord die and bring F4 onto the TOCA bill...

RtN · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:34 pm

codename_47 wrote:

ITV4 is showing the first F4 race later too, I hope that series dies on its arse and they all come and run FFords...

Not likely, F4 is cheaper.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:38 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Or have FFord die and bring F4 onto the TOCA bill...

Tradition, history, better looking cars and not massaging Palmer's ego means NOTHING to you kids does it, bah.

RtN wrote:

Not likely, F4 is cheaper.

And when Berger brings in his own FIA F4 next year?

Whole thing's a mess....

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:40 pm

Quite enjoyed that.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:41 pm

Good move for second.

Bet F4 isn't gonna be as good as that, even with 20 cars and editing in its favour.

Cammish must be about 5 years older than most FFord drivers, I remember him driving like a dick a good few years ago now...

RtN · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:42 pm

codename_47 wrote:

Tradition, history, better looking cars and not massaging Palmer's ego means NOTHING to you kids does it, bah.

I thought you hated the new FFord car?

codename_47 wrote:

And when Berger brings in his own FIA F4 next year?

Whole thing's a mess....

Berger's series will completely cannibalise Palmer's as it will have drivers who might actually make it further up the ladder.

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:43 pm

RtN wrote:

Berger's series will completely cannibalise Palmer's as it will have drivers who might actually make it further up the ladder.

And be European wide?

RtN · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:43 pm

Cammish is about the same age as Vettel.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:45 pm

RtN wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

Tradition, history, better looking cars and not massaging Palmer's ego means NOTHING to you kids does it, bah.

I thought you hated the new FFord car?

I hate the idea they had to add wings on it just to trick the racing dads to spend their money because somehow without it FFord wouldn't be relevant (I'd question how much they were doing at that speed anyway)

Car still looks good and better than the F4 car....it's all relative.

RtN · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:45 pm

Gaara wrote:

RtN wrote:

Berger's series will completely cannibalise Palmer's as it will have drivers who might actually make it further up the ladder.

And be European wide?

I don't think so, I think Berger wants there to be national series at the very first step post-karting. But there will be links to European F3 or F3 Open. Maybe a guaranteed drive for the winners or funding like FILS.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:48 pm

Basing your Formula on Indy Lights is definitely a recipe for success! :lol:

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:48 pm

I think Berger needs to look further up the ladder. GP2 gets stifled now because the guys stick around for so long and we end up with a talent logjam - but of course GP2 is not FIA sanctioned. We don't need more series, we need the average drivers forced out.

Look at GP3 this year - there's a heap of talented chaps in there, but how higher will they go because of funding?

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:49 pm

Need to help the talented drivers find funding.

RtN · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:50 pm

codename_47 wrote:

Basing your Formula on Indy Lights is definitely a recipe for success! :lol:

Well, 5 of the last 6 champions went straight to the big series, so they must be doing something right.

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:51 pm

Juniors again

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:52 pm

phil1993 wrote:

I think Berger needs to look further up the ladder. GP2 gets stifled now because the guys stick around for so long and we end up with a talent logjam - but of course GP2 is not FIA sanctioned. We don't need more series, we need the average drivers forced out.

Look at GP3 this year - there's a heap of talented chaps in there, but how higher will they go because of funding?

I think the problem is higher up than that....all these series, all these hundreds of drivers, are aiming at just 22 F1 seats (And probably 20 if Bernie gets his way)

When people ask what the small teams do for F1, it's that. It lets Talent audition In F1 machinery, the more seats you have in F1, the more chances you have to discover the next Alonso and Vettel etc.

In B4 Paydriver argument. Pay drivers have been in the sport when we've had 30 cars and when we've had 18.....no matter the number there is always pay drivers so the more cars the more chance there is for non-paydrivers to get a shot too.

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:53 pm

Eight foot over the bumps? :ohmy:

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:53 pm

While I typed all that shit no-one will read RJN was talking about a massive airbournes he was being shown by the driver in last place. Did that happen in race 1 or Qualy yesterday?

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