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Racefan4ever · PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:55 pm

Morgue will be just fine.

Wreckinturn4 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:03 pm

age doesn't matter much in terms of reaction time. it's mostly young guys with inexperience who cause most of the derping in ARCA. hershel mcgriff raced until he was 84 and i dont think he ever hit anyone

ChrisTRD · PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:28 am

I just figured ARCA didn't require cars with brakes

Joe A · PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:33 pm

Nine team owners have gotten together and formed what is called the "Race Team Alliance".

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Sprint Cup teams form Race Team Alliance
A group of nine multi-car teams participating in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series (NSCS) announced today they have formed a collaborative business association called the Race Team Alliance (RTA). The purpose of the organization is to create an open forum for the teams to explore areas of common interest and to work collaboratively on initiatives to help preserve, promote, and grow the sport of stock car racing. The organization intends to open up its membership to all full time NSCS teams in the very near future. In providing a vehicle for the teams to work together, the organization creates for the first time a single entity to engage with stakeholders on creative ways to market and experience the power of the sport's teams and drivers. As part of its focus, the RTA also plans to explore innovative ways to harness the combined purchasing power and scale of the teams' operations to drive efficiencies in costs. Rob Kauffman, co-owner of Michael Waltrip Racing, has been elected the first chair of the RTA.
"With the encouragement of NASCAR and the manufacturers, the teams have met in various forms and forums over the years to explore areas of common interest. This simply formalizes what was an informal group." said Kauffman. "The key word is 'Collaboration'. We all have vested interests in the success and popularity of stock car racing. By working together and speaking with a single voice, it should be a simpler and smoother process to work with current and potential groups involved with the sport. Whether it be looking for industry-wide travel partners or collaborating on technical issues - the idea is to work together to increase revenue, spend more efficiently, and deliver more value to our partners."
The following teams are the executive members of the RTA: Chip Ganassi Racing with Felix Sabates, Hendrick Motor Sports, Joe Gibbs Racing, Michael Waltrip Racing, Richard Childress Racing, Richard Petty Motor Sports, Roush Fenway Racing, Stewart-Haas Racing and Team Penske.(RTA)(7-7-2014)

Wasn't this how CART was formed?

Tristar 7AT · PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:31 pm

Good, split it all up and have all the racing move to SoBo and Hickory.

Tristar 7AT · PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:32 pm

That or have the RTA operate a light rail between Concorde and Brian Frances forehead.

Wreckinturn4 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:08 pm

really hope something comes out of this

de31168 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:59 pm

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UPDATE: Statement from NASCAR: "We are aware of the alliance concept the team owners have announced, but have very few specifics on its structure or purpose. It is apparently still in development and we're still learning about the details so it would be inappropriate to comment right now. NASCAR's mission, as it has always been, is to create a fair playing field where anyone can come and compete. Our job is to support and strengthen all of the teams, large and small, across all of our series and we'll continue to do that. NASCAR is a unique community with hundreds of stakeholders. They all have a voice and always will."(NASCAR)(7-7-2014)

The fact that the low buck teams aren't part of the alliance is interesting. I mean really if they split off and do their own thing, that would be so ridiculously stupid and the end of stock car popularity. Not that they could split. Who would broadcast the races, etc..

I also wonder if this is in response to the overall team value being in a huge decline from what it once was at in that article last week.

In other news..

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NASCAR could tweak qualifying rules at plate tracks: That strange qualifying session at Daytona International Speedway might end up being a one-time thing. NASCAR executive Robin Pemberton said rules could be tweaked to prevent teams from trying to scheme ways to post the fastest laps during the three knockout stages. "I think we'll learn from all of this moving forward and continue to talk and see if there's anything that we need to look at to try to make things better for the fans and better for the competitors," said Pemberton, NASCAR's vice president of competition. "All in all, it's been a great year for qualifying and it's been a great year for a lot of different rule changes that we put into play this year. We'll sit down and we'll talk about some of these things toward the latter stages of the year and see what we may rub on and do a little changing or some things like that." NASCAR's new qualifying rules package was used for the first time at Daytona in the Sprint Cup Series on Friday, and it produced some head-scratching moments as groups of cars slowed to a crawl around the 2 1/2-mile superspeedway. The small packs - most of them formed by teammates - were hoping to pull behind bigger groups and draft behind them to produce fast laps. But no one was eager to lead the way, especially not in a huge cluster of cars. NASCAR could conceivably change the qualifying rules before the Oct. 19 race at Talladega

I don't know how you fix it unless you have a "have to maintain minimum speed" type scenario, or change qualifying to something like IndyCar with an average of your laps run. You won't be trying to reel off that big one and 4 slow ones.

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:50 am

Joe A wrote:

Nine team owners have gotten together and formed what is called the "Race Team Alliance".

Quote:

Sprint Cup teams form Race Team Alliance
A group of nine multi-car teams participating in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series (NSCS) announced today they have formed a collaborative business association called the Race Team Alliance (RTA). The purpose of the organization is to create an open forum for the teams to explore areas of common interest and to work collaboratively on initiatives to help preserve, promote, and grow the sport of stock car racing. The organization intends to open up its membership to all full time NSCS teams in the very near future. In providing a vehicle for the teams to work together, the organization creates for the first time a single entity to engage with stakeholders on creative ways to market and experience the power of the sport's teams and drivers. As part of its focus, the RTA also plans to explore innovative ways to harness the combined purchasing power and scale of the teams' operations to drive efficiencies in costs. Rob Kauffman, co-owner of Michael Waltrip Racing, has been elected the first chair of the RTA.
"With the encouragement of NASCAR and the manufacturers, the teams have met in various forms and forums over the years to explore areas of common interest. This simply formalizes what was an informal group." said Kauffman. "The key word is 'Collaboration'. We all have vested interests in the success and popularity of stock car racing. By working together and speaking with a single voice, it should be a simpler and smoother process to work with current and potential groups involved with the sport. Whether it be looking for industry-wide travel partners or collaborating on technical issues - the idea is to work together to increase revenue, spend more efficiently, and deliver more value to our partners."
The following teams are the executive members of the RTA: Chip Ganassi Racing with Felix Sabates, Hendrick Motor Sports, Joe Gibbs Racing, Michael Waltrip Racing, Richard Childress Racing, Richard Petty Motor Sports, Roush Fenway Racing, Stewart-Haas Racing and Team Penske.(RTA)(7-7-2014)

Wasn't this how CART was formed?

Only interesting if they have the balls to stand up to NASCAR's dumber decisions like the Chase knock-out, bump stops and front splitters. Since no team has really been outspoken about any of these things in the past I'm not getting my hopes up.

Ayro · PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:23 am

“This (RTA) could be one of the most formidable things that’s happened in NASCAR since the Professional Drivers Association in 1969, and believe me, that rattled some windows and made some significant changes in NASCAR,” said Humpy Wheeler, former longtime president at Charlotte Motor Speedway. “This might even be a more powerful situation because the car owners represent most of the starting field,” he said. “If all of a sudden one day they didn’t show up, you’d have some serious problems on your hands. These teams involved control all of the sport’s stars.”

In August 1969, many of the drivers in what is now the Cup series created the PDA in part over concerns with racing conditions at the then-new Talladega (Ala.) Superspeedway. Drivers wanted NASCAR to postpone the inaugural race in September until more suitable tires could be used. Officials refused, and many of the drivers left. NASCAR filled the field with a collection of cars and drivers from various series, and the race went on as scheduled.

The PDA association eventually lasted three years and dissolved in 1972, although most of the drivers involved in the boycott returned to racing a week later. The primary concerns involved with the creation of the owners’ alliance appear to be centered on cutting costs and increasing team revenue.

Based on its response, NASCAR seemed to have little or no advance notice of the RTA’s creation. There was mixed reaction from the sport’s manufacturers.

“The betterment of the sport is the responsibility of all stakeholders, including NASCAR, manufacturers, teams, tracks and sponsors as all of us ensure the sport remains relevant to our fans,” Jamie Allison, director of Ford Racing, said in a statement.

Representatives from Toyota and Chevrolet said their respective manufacturers had no immediate comment.

Next season, NASCAR will begin a new 10-year TV deal with Fox and NBC worth a reported $8.2 billion. Currently, NASCAR teams receive roughly 25 percent of the TV revenue, tracks received 65 percent and 10 percent goes to NASCAR. With lower attendance at many races in recent years, the TV money has provided the bulk of tracks’ revenue stream.

“There seems to be one thing pushing this and that’s money,” Wheeler said. “Despite huge TV revenue coming in, you have the problem of terribly declining grandstand revenue. Just by putting themselves together in a very powerful unit, the owners, I think, will see some changes down the road.”

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/thatsracin/

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:28 am

Article source?

Ayro · PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:34 am

Philthy82 wrote:

Article source?

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/07/07/5029626/nascar-sports-top-teams-form-alliance.html

Ayro · PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:05 pm

GIANT BOWL OF NOT GOOD FOR NASCAR...

http://www.autoextremist.com/fumes1/2014/7/8/a-giant-bowl-of-not-good-for-nascar.html

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:08 pm

What about good for the sport of stock car racing? Or even oval racing? It is not exactly thriving on the open-wheel side.

FHgrad99 · PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:34 pm

NASCAR driver Jason White is playing in the World Series of Poker Main Event in Las Vegas this week. He has made it through 2 days of play. He is currently 154th in chips out of 822 players who made it out of yesterday's group. He isn't playing today since there is another group of players playing today. He will be playing again tomorrow. The winner of this tournament will win $10 million.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:42 pm

I like how they managed to come up with the initials RTA, which is the UK radio code for a Road Traffic Accident.

Seems appropriate when dealing with NASCAR, the whole thing is a RTA at the moment, TBH.

FHgrad99 · PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:26 pm

Jason White started the day at the World Series of Poker with 157,000 in chips. He has about 180,000 now. There are 1400 players left and about half of them will make the money.

FHgrad99 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:11 am

Jason White was just eliminated from the World Series of Poker Main Event. He finished in 348th place out of 6683 players that started the tournament. He won $33,734 in prize money. Kirk Shelmerdine also played in the tournament but was eliminated in the second day of play.

Pretzel · PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:26 pm

Just found this gem on facebook

https://www.change.org/petitions/the-wo ... 014-season :whistling:

Worst Troll Ever!

OldAsphalt · PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:09 pm

That's just Dylan Goodin, Landon Cassill's #1 fan.

https://twitter.com/dgoodin24

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