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| Author: | zippy [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
putting dirt behind that wall was even more of a ridiculous idea. |
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| Author: | Fox [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Its not raining anymore |
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| Author: | FHgrad99 [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
I think a SAFER Barrier is needed on the inside of that straightaway and the part where the wall juts out by where Sadler hit should go away. I don't see any reason why it's there. I'm glad Sadler is OK, that was a very nasty hit he took. |
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| Author: | Memy Selfandi [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Fox wrote: Its not raining anymore No one ever listens to me  There is another cell west of track coming, but I think it will miss. Fngers crossed. Maybe ESPN will fix their coverage now that they completely missed one of the hardest crashes in years. |
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| Author: | Fox [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
tickyour wrote: Damn ESPN  Hopefully some spectator caught it for Youtube.Yeah, but who?There are no Grandstands.If there will be a amateur view then it comes from the infield |
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| Author: | KK3869 [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Memy Selfandi wrote: Fox wrote: Its not raining anymore No one ever listens to me There is another cell west of track coming, but I think it will miss. Fngers crossed. Maybe ESPN will fix their coverage now that they completely missed one of the hardest crashes in years. In ESPN's defense they were kind focused on the other crash. Also it's ESPN they don't give a shit. |
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| Author: | Chris A [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Why don't we just ditch all these pointless angled walls? Does every track have to have a bad accident with one of them before they get fixed or can we start using common sense to level them all right now? Kentucky had the Fuller crash, then thy fixed the wall. Vegas had the Gordon crash, then they fixed that one too. Guess it's Pocono's turn to have a lack of foresight. |
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| Author: | KingOfChins [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
ESPN you are the most fucking retarded network ever. In the history of TV. Not even NBC and Bill Weber can touch that. Sincerely, all NASCAR fans. |
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| Author: | trout [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Fox wrote: Im asking myself right now why that wall is sticking out there.Keep it straight the service road is on the other side of it and the opening is really big. without that angle in the wall a car would cross the service road and hit a barrier at an even more severe angle. the whole section of the track needs to be re–engineered |
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| Author: | KK3869 [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Chris A wrote: Why don't we just ditch all these pointless angled walls? Does every track have to have a bad accident with one of them before they get fixed or can we start using common sense to level them all right now? Kentucky had the Fuller crash, then thy fixed the wall. Vegas had the Gordon crash, then they fixed that one too. Guess it's Pocono's turn to have a lack of foresight. Welcome to real world where with all the danger signs nothing is done until something bad happens. |
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| Author: | Chris A [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
trout wrote: the whole section of the track needs to be re–engineered Absolutely. The infield and service roads all along the backstretches and tunnel turn need to be smoothed and levelled as well. |
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| Author: | Memy Selfandi [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
KK3869 wrote: Memy Selfandi wrote: Fox wrote: Its not raining anymore No one ever listens to me There is another cell west of track coming, but I think it will miss. Fngers crossed. Maybe ESPN will fix their coverage now that they completely missed one of the hardest crashes in years. In ESPN's defense they were kind focused on the other crash. Also it's ESPN they don't give a shit. Ya I know, but you have to coordinate your coverage. Fixed vantage point cameras (like long pond straight cam, front strech cam, helicopter cam) should maintain or zoom out to improve a properly framed shot during an accident. That's why they missed it. Normally the helicopter or the camera facing backwards in turn 2 would have caught it. With these cameras, you get more of a wide viewing angle at the expense of some detail. They should be used like this even during the accidents. Amateurish coverage, IMO. |
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| Author: | Fox [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Engines refired |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Huge dent in the front of Khanes car. |
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| Author: | Jeff [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Did Kahne have damage to the front of his car before this caution? I saw the front end was pushed in a bit. |
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| Author: | lemonhead75 [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
That is just absolutely rediculous. A 90 degree angle with armco on the inside of a straight away they get above 175 mph on. Its just...why did nobody fix this before? This kind of thing isn't way unusual. Move of the race by the HANS device and the COT. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
The number of enormous accidents is getting fucking ridiculous. |
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| Author: | KK3869 [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
SimRacin14 wrote: Did Kahne have damage to the front of his car before this caution? I saw the front end was pushed in a bit. Just thinking the same thing. Hmmm. |
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| Author: | FHgrad99 [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
Chris A wrote: Why don't we just ditch all these pointless angled walls? Does every track have to have a bad accident with one of them before they get fixed or can we start using common sense to level them all right now? Kentucky had the Fuller crash, then thy fixed the wall. Vegas had the Gordon crash, then they fixed that one too. Guess it's Pocono's turn to have a lack of foresight. I agree with you there. I think tracks should be more proactive instead of reactive when it comes to recognizing and addressing any potential safety risks. It shouldn't take a wreck to show that there might be a potential safety risk. The solutions can be pretty simple, I think. For example, where the safety vehicles enter and exit the tracks. The best design would to angle those openings where they are going in the same direction as the track. That would eliminate the risks of any cars hitting an opening in the wall since cars don't spin in the opposite direction of where they were travelling. |
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| Author: | FastCat [ Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cup/Trucks/ARCA @ Pocono + Nationwide @ Iowa |
KK3869 wrote: Chris A wrote: Why don't we just ditch all these pointless angled walls? Does every track have to have a bad accident with one of them before they get fixed or can we start using common sense to level them all right now? Kentucky had the Fuller crash, then thy fixed the wall. Vegas had the Gordon crash, then they fixed that one too. Guess it's Pocono's turn to have a lack of foresight. Welcome to real world where with all the danger signs nothing is done until something bad happens. The worst thing about Pocono is that this isn't the first bad accident that has happen, I guess they're are waiting for someone to died first. |
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