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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:40 pm 
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And Kubica in Canada. That car quite literally smashed itself into smithereens.


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coldtyre wrote:
Le Mans 1999: one of those rare occasions where Reality > Fiction.

Also, that unfortunate Formula Dream accident at Suzuka in 2002, and Joey Hand at Mid Ohio...

Sometimes physics just give up and the whole accident seems just out of an OTT movie.


You can add Takashi Yokoyama to that list as well

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:27 pm 
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That Joey Hand crash is probably one of the most insane crashes I have ever seen, purely for the fact that it seemed to defy physics...yet that didn't win the crash of the year here did it?


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Nope, Legge at Road America did.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:34 pm 
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I always thought that Hands should have got it because it was such a crazy and mental accident because that type of accident had never really happened like that before. The Legge crash though batshit insane was less unbelievable to me.


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Servia (I think) had a mental one at Laguna Seca that was like a bug in a video game.

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Servia (I think) had a mental one at Laguna Seca that was like a bug in a video game.


Yeaa, I remember that. Launched over a car hit the sand nose first and it just sprang up. Can't quite explain that.


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He got sooo much air was crazy.

As did Trevor Seibert in an Indy Lights race at Cleveland in the mid 90s.....but not really physics defying though.



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woah, intense.


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I thought Carpentier vaulting a barrier at Laguna Seca was pretty bizarre too, the way it just seemed to perfectly rotate over the top of it as if it was a high jump in the olympics.

There's that famous Zonta picture of him flipping over a barrier at Silverstone too that my brain just can't figure out how that worked in the real world...

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I thought Carpentier vaulting a barrier at Laguna Seca was pretty bizarre too, the way it just seemed to perfectly rotate over the top of it as if it was a high jump in the olympics.

There's that famous Zonta picture of him flipping over a barrier at Silverstone too that my brain just can't figure out how that worked in the real world...


Same way Servia's did, I would imagine.

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Patrick Carpentier's flip over the wall should also be mentioned here.

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Patrick Carpentier's flip over the wall should also be mentioned here.


Rodriguez's crash in 1999 was worser, but also had a worse ending...


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This is the photo Codename is referring to.....Edit...have just noticed the TBK water mark at the bottom of the pic :lol:

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And yes I have also wondered just how that crash happened.

I have always wondered how Pedro Lamy's crash in testing at Silverstone in 1994 would have looked. As far as I know there are no photos of it, certainly no videos. Here's an article on just how insane it must have been.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing-lamy-in-horrifying-crash-at-silverstone-lotus-driver-breaks-kneecaps-and-thigh-as-car-disintegrates-following-150mph-smash-during-testing-for-spanish-grand-prix-1438481.html


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This is the photo Codename is referring to.....Edit...have just noticed the TBK water mark at the bottom of the pic :lol:

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And yes I have also wondered just how that crash happened.

I have always wondered how Pedro Lamy's crash in testing at Silverstone in 1994 would have looked. As far as I know there are no photos of it, certainly no videos. Here's an article on just how insane it must have been.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing-lamy-in-horrifying-crash-at-silverstone-lotus-driver-breaks-kneecaps-and-thigh-as-car-disintegrates-following-150mph-smash-during-testing-for-spanish-grand-prix-1438481.html


Both those accidents are bizarre as on Grand Prix weekend it's usually hard to find anything to hit on such a wide open space.
The way the Lamy article is written it makes it sound like an F1 blowover but it might be actually that he had a suspension failure and the tyre got trapped under the chassis and when it came free it launched it high into the air.
Or it was a kerb or something. Doubt it's possible for an F1 car to blowover, NASCAR style...

The Zonta one, In my minds eye, he must've bounced over the gravel trap, bumped around a bit and came into contact with the tyres at the high point of one of those bumps, hit the tyre barrier which bounced him right over the barriers.

Oh, all these "hidden" moments, so much to be speculated out of so little by so many :p

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It's the first time I've read that Lamy-article. Can't really imagine how it must have felt to be an avid F1-follower back then


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It was just a week ago Gary Hartstein told that FIA tries to find ways to prevent cars from launching into the air from nose to wheel contact.
Webber's accident is the most recent example of that. Also Teixeira at Marrakech '10.
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Surely F1 has been lucky that similar crash hasn't taken place at Singapore or Monaco.
And while I prefer gravel instead of tarmac, at high speed places they can launch car over the tyrewall or fences. Like Carter at Calder Park '99.
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I'm afraid Monza and Suzuka will lose gravel traps immediately if there ever occurs a flip in F1.


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didn't Badoer also end up over the barrier in Barcelona once?

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Reports from the Barcelona circuit said that Badoer's accident happened after he lost a wheel at high speed. His car somersaulted into the gravel and went over the tyre barrier.



http://www.autosport.com/news/atlasf1-r ... p/id/3432/


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Lamy's car ended up inside the pedestrian access tunnel that went through the bridge support, it was quiet a strange accident.

If you look in this photo you can see the tunnel path type thing on the left hand side of the bridge, behind the three fence panels.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8045/8143112743_6af47ec83a_z.jpg


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Scotty wrote:
This all reminds me how crazy the '94 F1 season was. Lehto, Alesi, Lamy all injured, Irvine gets suspended 3 races in, Ratzenberger and Senna to be replaced mid-year after their deaths, Frentzen gets injured, Hakkinen gets suspended.

Imagine taking this years grid and having to find substitutes for 6 of them.




Frentzen? You mean Wendlinger at Monaco?

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