2012 Formula 1 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka

webbsy · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:54 am

Dannz wrote:

Scotty wrote:

All these members complaining about early Sunday morning races, try an entire European season where races finish at Midnight Sunday night and American races which finish at 5am on a Monday morning (even worse for the Kiwis).

At least we actually have live coverage now hurr, I remember some european races finishing at around 2am during Channel Ten's Big Brother era

Were you watching during the Chanel 9 era? Every race started between 10.30 - 12 at night. Only Brazil and Argentina were shown live and even then I suspect they were delayed as they didn't finish until 6 - 6.30 am. Were tough times indeed for a high school kid.

Omega · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:26 am

Scotty wrote:

All these members complaining about early Sunday morning races, try an entire European season where races finish at Midnight Sunday night and American races which finish at 5am on a Monday morning (even worse for the Kiwis).

It's actually an incredibly weird feeling to be preparing myself for a grand prix at 5pm in the afternoon! Especially with 5-6 hours of Bathurst rolling into it

I like early Sunday races. Race is over by 10 am so you can still enjoy the rest of the day. Now most of the races are from 14 to 16h with a possible beautiful Sunday afternoon ruined and an unhappy girlfriend.

If every race started at 9am West-European Time, everyone from the UK to Australia could see it at a reasonable hour.

ellis · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:33 am

Scotty wrote:

All these members complaining about early Sunday morning races, try an entire European season where races finish at Midnight Sunday night and American races which finish at 5am on a Monday morning (even worse for the Kiwis).

All...none of them? The only comment on the start time is actually a comment wanting a LESS socialable start time for Europeans.

Juihi · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:41 am

I think it was a preemptive post by Scotty because there are bound to be posts complaining about it

Lucasjeha · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:56 am

Some important informations regarding the track for the upcoming race:

a) Due to the celebrations of the 50 years of Suzuka Circuit, the track was resurfaced frm the Dunlop Corner to the Casio Triangle. That resurfacing made the track even faster. (Formula Nippon and SuperGT saw some lap records this years in their pre season tests). Also at that areas a new draining system was installed to avoid standing water that has been a problem in the last years in the circuit.

b) DRS zone was (like in many tracks this year) shortened a little bit, a 20 meters difference from the last year. The detection zone will be 50 meters before the Casio Triangle. Last year the DRS was not very effective there, making it even shorter seems to be a wrong decision by the FIA. But we must wait and see.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:03 pm

Flexi-wings are back in the news
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103022

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:33 pm

Lucasjeha wrote:

Some important informations regarding the track for the upcoming race:

a) Due to the celebrations of the 50 years of Suzuka Circuit, the track was resurfaced frm the Dunlop Corner to the Casio Triangle. That resurfacing made the track even faster. (Formula Nippon and SuperGT saw some lap records this years in their pre season tests). Also at that areas a new draining system was installed to avoid standing water that has been a problem in the last years in the circuit.

Thanks for that info :thumbsup:

You know, when tracks are resurfaced, it's expected for them to become quicker as normally newer tarmacs provides more grip. But still, I don't expect the 2006 times to be even close to being beaten. Part of the track will give more grip but that will be kind of neutralised by the lack of full EBD

Lucasjeha · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:13 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

Lucasjeha wrote:

Some important informations regarding the track for the upcoming race:

a) Due to the celebrations of the 50 years of Suzuka Circuit, the track was resurfaced frm the Dunlop Corner to the Casio Triangle. That resurfacing made the track even faster. (Formula Nippon and SuperGT saw some lap records this years in their pre season tests). Also at that areas a new draining system was installed to avoid standing water that has been a problem in the last years in the circuit.

Thanks for that info :thumbsup:

You know, when tracks are resurfaced, it's expected for them to become quicker as normally newer tarmacs provides more grip. But still, I don't expect the 2006 times to be even close to being beaten. Part of the track will give more grip but that will be kind of neutralised by the lack of full EBD

Massa set the pole in 2006 with a 1:29.5, last year Vettel did a 1:30.4, I don't think we will see a new pole record, but maybe a high 1:29 is possible.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:16 pm

2006 had fuel in Q3, I think Schumacher did a 1.28.7 in Q2 on low fuel.

This year I'd be surprised if times went beneath 2011 as they've lost the EBDs. Anything around 1.31.5 may take pole if you look at the times compared to 2011 on other tracks.

Антон · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:46 pm

Quote:

Caterham F1 Team ‏@MyCaterhamF1
Now it's time to focus on the race ahead. @gvandergarde will be in Heikki's car in FP1 on Friday and then Heikki's back in as per normal.
giedo van der garde

Fabs · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:48 pm

Rubmifer wrote:

"NO RAIN" -Fabs

what?

And that's not true from what I've read. There's a tropical storm around the Pacific, RtN probably knows more about it.

It could hit Japan during the weekend although its path is currently predicted to miss Japan.

RtN · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:54 pm

Maliksi will miss Japan by a couple of hundred miles.

Forecast still says dry for all 3 days.

Fabs · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:10 pm

But that could always change right.

RtN · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:18 pm

Well, BBC suggests that there will be showers further east, closer to Tokyo, but apart from that there's very little else.

Fabs · PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:37 pm

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:05 am

Lucasjeha wrote:

Massa set the pole in 2006 with a 1:29.5, last year Vettel did a 1:30.4, I don't think we will see a new pole record, but maybe a high 1:29 is possible.

Erh, the track record is from Schumacher(2006) 1.28.9. I hate the stupid previous Q3 rule which had provided so much fake poles as this one.

Lucasjeha · PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:12 am

Artur Craft wrote:

Lucasjeha wrote:

Massa set the pole in 2006 with a 1:29.5, last year Vettel did a 1:30.4, I don't think we will see a new pole record, but maybe a high 1:29 is possible.

Erh, the track record is from Schumacher(2006) 1.28.9. I hate the stupid previous Q3 rule which had provided so much fake poles as this one.

Agreed. The old system was really bad, it killed the whole purpose of a qualifying session that is to test the speed of a driver in a single lap, its good that we have the system we have right now, even if I would prefer the old system of friday and saturday, with qualifying tyres, 60 minutes sessions, those were the days! I remember at Suzuka in 1991, the qualifying tyres were so soft that the drivers had to make an unbeliveable slow warm up lap otherwise the tyres would be really bad before the fast lap ended. Very nice year it was.

Tobias · PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:26 am

judging by the look on their faces you would think they are about to attend a funeral.

RtN · PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:36 am

Well, the three at the back usually look like that, and the three at the front have their own special circumstances to feel slightly awkward about.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:29 am

Perez: Hey Lewis, do you just want to swap now, I can't wait to take your seat

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