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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:46 pm 
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Horner trying to be diplomatic


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Christian Horner getting a roasting from Ted Kravitz :lol:


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Hahaha I remember clearly when Red Bull criticised others for team orders... this just shows when it comes to it... just as bad as the rest.


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Horner "gave Mark the undercut twice" and when he was unable to take advantage of it, he told him to hold station. That's interesting, especially if they actually gave him preferential pit stops to benefit him.


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It makes sense. Why risk a 2-3 finish for the team?

If Webber is unhappy about this, he knows what to do. Be faster and be ahead of Vettel. If he doesn't like it, he can piss off elsewhere, imo.

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I thought Horner came out a couple of years ago and said "We let our drivers race blah blah."


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Webber looks miffed.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Hahaha I remember clearly when Red Bull criticised others for team orders... this just shows when it comes to it... just as bad as the rest.

Were team orders banned back then? Yes. Are they banned now? No. STFU


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it was like Christmass for Ferrari this weekend, all those gifts...

I hope they are proud of themselves


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Webber nicely avoided answering the question: "I tried...that's it"


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So Red Bull told cars to hold station, in compliance with the sporting regulations and that's somehow being compared to Ferrari swapping cars...in violation of the sporting regulations. Am I the only person who finds this moronic on so many levels?


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ellis wrote:
So Red Bull told cars to hold station, in compliance with the sporting regulations and that's somehow being compared to Ferrari swapping cars...in violation of the sporting regulations. Am I the only person who finds this moronic on so many levels?


Regardless of the rule changes, I think the majority of fans want to see drivers in the same team be allowed to race each other.


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Webber got 4 bites at Vettel.

Twice at Brooklands and twice into Copse.

Vettel defended against him, fairly, all 4 times.

Stowe is not a passing place unless you have a much faster car (2 seconds+\lap) and having a go into Vale is inviting trouble.

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My problem with Red Bull is there is no need to tell him to hold station. Vettel has a gargantuan lead in the championship let them battle it out ffs especially since how Red Bull always go on about equal treatment.

Whatever. Fernando :thumbsup: Great race and stunning pace when it mattered.
Also :thumbsup: to Schumacher, Perez and Alguersuari. Collision aside from Schumacher great races from all three.


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De Cesaris fan wrote:
ellis wrote:
So Red Bull told cars to hold station, in compliance with the sporting regulations and that's somehow being compared to Ferrari swapping cars...in violation of the sporting regulations. Am I the only person who finds this moronic on so many levels?


Regardless of the rule changes, I think the majority of fans want to see drivers in the same team be allowed to race each other.


I agree, and I also would have loved to see them race (but since Webber apparently ignored the orders (I say apparently), we did anyway, so there was no issue...). But it isn't the same as Hockenheim. It isn't even in the same ball park.


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Webber only got the order after Copse on the final lap.

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De Cesaris fan wrote:
ellis wrote:
So Red Bull told cars to hold station, in compliance with the sporting regulations and that's somehow being compared to Ferrari swapping cars...in violation of the sporting regulations. Am I the only person who finds this moronic on so many levels?


Regardless of the rule changes, I think the majority of fans want to see drivers in the same team be allowed to race each other.


Well at the end of the race I can understand it, a driver is going to start making that do or die move and RB didn't want both cars crashing out.


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RtN wrote:
Webber only got the order after Copse on the final lap.


According to Horner it was 2 laps. The message was delayed.


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RtN wrote:
Webber only got the order after Copse on the final lap.


No he didn't. The radio transmissions are delayed. Horner himself said he gave it 2 lap to the end or something.


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ellis wrote:
RtN wrote:
Webber only got the order after Copse on the final lap.


According to Horner it was 2 laps. The message was delayed.


Delayed by that much?

Fair enough, then.

Webber didn't listen, so there's no problem.

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