TBK-Light.com :: 2011 DHL Turkish Grand Prix

I did laugh at some of those laws on that page.

"Offenders are typically punished with lashes." Forward thinking country, Saudi Arabia.

apparently there were 113 overtakes in the race

mclaren2008 wrote:

apparently there were 113 overtakes in the race

On track?

Boy, did the directing suck bad then, I thought that there would have been about 30 overtakes on track.

There actually were 126 manouvers, excluding first lap, position changes in the pits and any overtakes due to a technical problem or a driver going off the track.

Well we (fans) wanted a show/racing right? Now we got it... and now some are still complaining
Its better to have something than nothing dont you think?

I'd like to see where drivers have to work hard for their passing.
pre-2011 was working hard, seeing that it was impossible, wait for pitstops or stay behind for 50 laps.
2011 is coming close to another car and passing him.

We need a path between, where a driver knows it can be done if he tries.

Author:	thedoctor46 [ Wed May 11, 2011 12:36 pm ]
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some disturbing images going on here lol

Author:	GerhardBergerFan [ Wed May 11, 2011 6:45 pm ]
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Alonso would run off the podium as quick as he can haha

Author:	Lita [ Thu May 12, 2011 10:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Rate the 2011 Turkish Grand Prix
I was happy with that so I gave it an 8. A nice birthday gift However, I will agree that the DRS zone should have been placed in a different area.

Author:	Lita [ Thu May 12, 2011 10:44 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Driver of the Race - Turkey
Definitely Alonso. He always gives it 110% and he did well to get the car to a podium position

Author:	aerogi [ Thu May 12, 2011 10:53 am ]
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Hard to choose between Alonso and Vettel. But I will give it to Alonso in the end, put Alonso in Vettel's car, and Alonso would (probably) have won too.

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Author:	Barre [ Sat May 14, 2011 5:59 pm ]
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De Cesaris fan wrote: I did laugh at some of those laws on that page. "Offenders are typically punished with lashes." Forward thinking country, Saudi Arabia. Same goes for Qatar, read a paper last year in Qatar that a Qatari was caught during an alcohol control next to the road, punishment was 50 lashes. Also see that it's forbidden in Kuwait.... i'm sipping on something now though thank god for non muslim indians and their distillation sets.

Author:	NVirkkula [ Sat May 14, 2011 10:14 pm ]
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mclaren2008 wrote: apparently there were 113 overtakes in the race On track? Boy, did the directing suck bad then, I thought that there would have been about 30 overtakes on track. Does that count start and pitstops? 82 pitstops could raise the overtaking numbers if it's just down to changing positions.

Author:	maclauren [ Sun May 15, 2011 12:25 am ]
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There actually were 126 manouvers, excluding first lap, position changes in the pits and any overtakes due to a technical problem or a driver going off the track.

Author:	Echti [ Sun May 15, 2011 10:23 am ]
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NVirkkula wrote: mclaren2008 wrote: apparently there were 113 overtakes in the race On track? Boy, did the directing suck bad then, I thought that there would have been about 30 overtakes on track. Directing did not suck. Do you really want to see every pass?? Well in this case the race coverage would just consist of replays...

Author:	amq55 [ Tue May 17, 2011 1:54 pm ]
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maclauren wrote: There actually were 126 manouvers, excluding first lap, position changes in the pits and any overtakes due to a technical problem or a driver going off the track. That is actually a new record.

Author:	Mattzel89 [ Tue May 17, 2011 5:33 pm ]
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shame that most of those seemed way too easy

Author:	alex1369 [ Tue May 17, 2011 9:46 pm ]
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Well we (fans) wanted a show/racing right? Now we got it... and now some are still complaining Its better to have something than nothing dont you think?

Author:	Gabriel [ Tue May 17, 2011 10:32 pm ]
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alex1369 wrote: Well we (fans) wanted a show/racing right? Now we got it... and now some are still complaining Its better to have something than nothing dont you think? I want the FIA to do their fucking job and fix the damn overtaking issue without implementing stupid gadgets to bypass the problem.

Author:	phil1993 [ Wed May 18, 2011 7:32 am ]
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alex1369 wrote: Well we (fans) wanted a show/racing right? Now we got it... and now some are still complaining Its better to have something than nothing dont you think? Its nice to see overtaking, but in Turkey it was too manufactured. I do want to see overtaking, but I want to see the driver infront have a chance of using his defensive skills. In Turkey, that was impossible. Sometimes the tension can build for 10 laps which makes it exciting. If they follow for 1 lap, hit a button and cruise past its like 'meh'.

Author:	mclaren2008 [ Wed May 18, 2011 8:05 am ]
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all the overtakes from cliptheapex.com (in spoiler tags because there are heaps) [spoiler]Lap 2 - 6 Massa passed 9 Heidfeld for 9th 18 Buemi passed 20 Kovalainen for 15th 19 Alguersuari passed 23 Liuzzi for 19th Lap 3 - 11 Barrichello passed 9 Heidfeld for 9th 18 Buemi passed 12 Maldonado for 13th 16 Kobayashi passed 21 Trulli for 16th 25 D'Ambrosio passed 22 Karthikeyan for 20th Lap 4 - 16 Kobayashi passed 20 Kovalainen for 15th 19 Alguersuari passed 21 Trulli for 17th Lap 5 - 2 Webber passed 8 Rosberg for 2nd 19 Alguersuari passed 20 Kovalainen for 16th Lap 6 - 3 Hamilton passed 4 Button for 5th 4 Button passed 3 Hamilton for 5th 9 Heidfeld passed 11 Barrichello for 9th 18 Buemi passed 15 di Resta for 12th 16 Kobayashi passed 12 Maldonado for 14th 7 Schumacher passed 22 Karthikeyan for 21st Lap 7 - 5 Alonso passed 8 Rosberg for 3rd 3 Hamilton passed 4 Button for 5th 7 Schumacher passed 25 D'Ambrosio for 20th 7 Schumacher passed 23 Liuzzi for 19th Lap 8 - 4 Button passed 3 Hamilton for 5th Lap 9 - 6 Massa passed 3 Hamilton for 6th 25 D'Ambrosio passed 23 Liuzzi for 20th Lap 10 - 16 Kobayashi passed 15 di Resta for 9th 3 Hamilton passed 12 Maldonado for 11th 6 Massa passed 12 Maldonado for 12th 10 Petrov passed 21 Trulli for 16th Lap 11 - 19 Alguersuari passed 12 Maldonado for 10th 10 Petrov passed 20 Kovalainen for 12th 9 Heidfeld passed 21 Trulli for 14th 9 Heidfeld passed 20 Kovalainen for 13th Lap 12 - 10 Petrov passed 19 Alguersuari for 9th 18 Buemi passed 7 Schumacher for 14th 18 Buemi passed 21 Trulli for 13th 7 Schumacher passed 21 Trulli for 14th 11 Barrichello passed 21 Trulli for 15th 14 Sutil passed 21 Trulli for 16th 17 Pérez passed 22 Karthikeyan for 22nd 17 Pérez passed 23 Liuzzi for 21st Lap 13 - 1 Vettel passed 4 Button for 1st 8 Rosberg passed 16 Kobayashi for 5th 9 Heidfeld passed 19 Alguersuari for 10th 18 Buemi passed 20 Kovalainen for 12th 18 Buemi passed 19 Alguersuari for 11th 11 Barrichello passed 7 Schumacher for 14th 11 Barrichello passed 20 Kovalainen for 13th 7 Schumacher passed 20 Kovalainen for 14th 14 Sutil passed 20 Kovalainen for 15th 15 di Resta passed 20 Kovalainen for 16th 15 di Resta passed 21 Trulli for 17th 12 Maldonado passed 25 D'Ambrosio for 19th Lap 14 - 3 Hamilton passed 8 Rosberg for 4th 16 Kobayashi passed 7 Schumacher for 12th 14 Sutil passed 7 Schumacher for 13th 17 Pérez passed 25 D'Ambrosio for 18th 19 Alguersuari passed 25 D'Ambrosio for 19th 21 Trulli passed 23 Liuzzi for 21st Lap 15 - 7 Schumacher passed 17 Pérez for 17th 21 Trulli passed 25 D'Ambrosio for 20th Lap 16 - 16 Kobayashi passed 11 Barrichello for 11th 19 Alguersuari passed 17 Pérez for 17th Lap 20 - 6 Massa passed 8 Rosberg for 5th 8 Rosberg passed 6 Massa for 5th Lap 21 - 6 Massa passed 8 Rosberg for 4th 4 Button passed 8 Rosberg for 5th 7 Schumacher passed 12 Maldonado for 15th 17 Pérez passed 20 Kovalainen for 19th Lap 22 - 16 Kobayashi passed 18 Buemi for 8th 19 Alguersuari passed 12 Maldonado for 16th Lap 23 - 4 Button passed 6 Massa for 4th 18 Buemi passed 16 Kobayashi for 7th 3 Hamilton passed 16 Kobayashi for 8th 3 Hamilton passed 18 Buemi for 7th 10 Petrov passed 15 di Resta for 11th Lap 24 - 8 Rosberg passed 15 di Resta for 10th 9 Heidfeld passed 15 di Resta for 11th 17 Pérez passed 21 Trulli for 18th Lap 25 - 6 Massa passed 14 Sutil for 7th 10 Petrov passed 14 Sutil for 6th 15 di Resta passed 12 Maldonado for 15th Lap 26 - 18 Buemi passed 19 Alguersuari for 11th 16 Kobayashi passed 15 di Resta for 15th Lap 29 - 5 Alonso passed 2 Webber for 2nd 12 Maldonado passed 20 Kovalainen for 18th Lap 30 - 18 Buemi passed 7 Schumacher for 10th Lap 32 - 19 Alguersuari passed 17 Pérez for 16th Lap 33 - 16 Kobayashi passed 14 Sutil for 12th Lap 34 - 4 Button passed 6 Massa for 6th 14 Sutil passed 16 Kobayashi for 12th 7 Schumacher passed 16 Kobayashi for 13th 7 Schumacher passed 14 Sutil for 12th Lap 35 - 16 Kobayashi passed 6 Massa for 13th 6 Massa passed 16 Kobayashi passed for 13th Lap 36 - 8 Rosberg passed 11 Barrichello for 8th 6 Massa passed 14 Sutil for 12th 17 Pérez passed 12 Maldonado for 17th Lap 38 - 10 Petrov passed 11 Barrichello for 8th Lap 39 - 9 Heidfeld passed 11 Barrichello for 9th 6 Massa passed 7 Schumacher for 11th Lap 40 - 3 Hamilton passed 18 Buemi for 4th 6 Massa passed 11 Barrichello for 10th Lap 41 - 19 Alguersuari passed 11 Barrichello for 15th Lap 43 - 16 Kobayashi passed 15 di Resta for 12th Lap 44 - 18 Buemi passed 7 Schumacher for 10th Lap 46 - 8 Rosberg passed 6 Massa for 7th Lap 49 - 3 Hamilton passed 4 Button for 4th Lap 50 - 21 Trulli passed 20 Kovalainen for 18th Lap 51 - 2 Webber passed 5 Alonso for 2nd 9 Heidfeld passed 10 Petrov for 8th 14 Sutil passed 11 Barrichello for 14th Lap 52 - 6 Massa passed 7 Schumacher for 12th 7 Schumacher passed 6 Massa for 12th 17 Pérez passed 11 Barrichello for 15th Lap 53 - 7 Schumacher passed 19 Alguersuari for 11th 6 Massa passed 19 Alguersuari for 12th Lap 54 - 8 Rosberg passed 4 Button for 5th 9 Heidfeld passed 18 Buemi for 7th 6 Massa passed 7 Schumacher for 11th 19 Alguersuari passed 7 Schumacher for 12th 7 Schumacher passed 19 Alguersuari for 12th Lap 55 - 14 Sutil passed 19 Alguersuari for 13th 17 Pérez passed 19 Alguersuari for 14th Lap 56 - 17 Pérez passed 14 Sutil for 13th Lap 57 - 14 Sutil passed 17 Pérez for 13th Lap 58 - 10 Petrov passed 18 Buemi for 8th[/spoiler]

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Author:	Bleu [ Wed May 18, 2011 8:31 am ]
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Only 11 laps where no passing took place.

Author:	Omega [ Wed May 18, 2011 10:06 am ]
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I'd like to see where drivers have to work hard for their passing. pre-2011 was working hard, seeing that it was impossible, wait for pitstops or stay behind for 50 laps. 2011 is coming close to another car and passing him. We need a path between, where a driver knows it can be done if he tries.

Author:	De Cesaris fan [ Wed May 18, 2011 3:55 pm ]
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Omega wrote: I'd like to see where drivers have to work hard for their passing. pre-2011 was working hard, seeing that it was impossible, wait for pitstops or stay behind for 50 laps. 2011 is coming close to another car and passing him. We need a path between, where a driver knows it can be done if he tries. Pretty much agree with that. DRS is ok if the passes aren't too easy (like we saw in China), but I'd much rather just have cars that can follow each other closely. And remove the rev limit so that they can get proper slipstreams. Simples.