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GRAND PRIX DE BELGIQUE
GRAND PRIX VAN BELGIE
GRAND PRIX VON BELGIEN
2008 FORMULA 1 ING BELGIAN GRAND PRIX
05, 06 and 07 september
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Location : Francorchamps, Spa, Belgium
Time zone : GMT +1
Circuit Length : 7.004 km (4.352 mi)
Turns : 21
Lap Record : 1:45.108 ( Kimi Räikkönen, McLaren, 2004)
Website : http://www.spa-francorchamps.be/

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HISTORY
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Le Circuit national de Francorchamps, or as it's more commonly known, Spa-Francorchamps, is one of the worlds most famous, historical, and scenic race tracks ever built. In the early 1920's tourist developers in the Spa region were looking for a new way to promote their region, they decided to make a race track by linking the public roads between Spa, Stavelot, Francorchamps, and Malmedy to creat a 15 kilometer triangular shaped race track that wound it's way through the the foothills of the Ardenne mountains. The first race, scheduled for 1921 only drew one entrant. The organizers would not be disappointed so they pushed and a motorcycle race was organized and run the following year, to be followed by an automobile race later in the year.

By the end of the 1920's the circuit was gaining in fame as more and more international races were being held gaining in prestige. The track layout changed marginally throughout the 1930's, culminating in the development of the modern "Eau Rouge" corner for the 1939 belgian Grand Prix, a race that saw the tragic death of racer Dick Seaman, this was the last race held at Spa for eight years due to World War II before racing returned in 1947.

When the world drivers championship was inaugurated in 1950 Spa was a natural inclusion as the 14.5 Kilometer circuit graced the calendar in 1950, joining the Monaco, Bremgarten, Silverstone, Rheims, Indianapolis and Monza on the first Grand Prix calendar. The race was won by Fangio as Spa earned a right to be a permanent member of the World Championship.

The Circuit was impressive, starting on the downslope going into the high speed uphill Eau Rouge before winding it's way through the mountains to Les Combes, where it took a left hand sweep downhill towards the high speed Burneville and Malmedy right handers leading onto the long Masta straight, interrupted only by the masta kink chicane. After the long straight the Sweeping High Speed Stavelot curve that led onto a high speed section that swept it's way uphill through the lightning-quick Carriere and Blanchimont curves leading to "La Source" a hairpin at the top of the hill and end of the lap before plunging back downhill to start another 14 kilometer adventure through the pine forests. An ultimate drivers challenge, Spa and the Nurburgring tested early F1 stars mettle and their right to be called "World Champion"

By the late 60's F1 cars were reaching higher speeds and safety concerns arose. After Jim Clark's tragic death at Hockenheim in 1968 a new safety revolution began. One of the first on the chopping blocks was the high speed Spa-Francorchamps, which was excluded from the 1969 Calendar. It was reinstated for 1970 before the old circuit was finally axed for good. The Belgian GP moved to the uninspiring Nivelles and Zolder Circuits. It appeared that F1 at Spa was gone for good.

However a resurrection began. A new, modern circuit was built in the late 70's encompassing some of the most famous turns of the old circuit including "La Source", "Eau Rouge", and "Blanchimont". The weaving and winding circuit made it's way through the valley of the Ardennes, now being half the length of the old track. The old track was closed in 1978 and the first races at the new Spa were held in 1979. F1 started to take notice, and after Gilles Villeneuve's fatal crash at Zolder in 1982, it was announced that Spa would host the race in 1983, and Zolder again in 1984. The 1983 race was a success and after the race had moved back to Zolder in '84, the drivers realized that "once you go to Spa, you can never go back. The 1985 race was disastrous as it had to be postponed due to the pavement breaking up. ".

Despite the problems of the 1985 event, Spa-Francorchamps was given a permanent home on the Formula One calendar. The new track, although slightly slower than the old one, has become one of Formula One's classics. Very few changes to the layout have been made, except for a mickey-mouse temporary chicane at Eau-Rouge in 1994, Spa now has one of the most dramatic first corners with the very slow and tight "La Source" hairpin.

Despite the loss of the race in 2003 due to tobacco sponsorship issues, Spa has been returned, and if the drivers and fans have any say, it'll be on the calendar for as long as possible. Le Circuit National de Francorchamps, one of the World's great modern circuits, that replaced one of the world's great classic circuits.


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2007 Kimi Räikkönen
2005 Kimi Räikkönen
2004 Kimi Räikkönen
2002 Michael Schumacher
2001 Michael Schumacher
2000 Mika Häkkinen


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Well Belgian's biggest weather institute KMI is predicting a windy and rainy weekend. So a wet grand prix could be a possibility.
Weather.com is predicting a 60% chance of light rain on sunday, and 60% chance of showers for saturday. But I'm gonna go on the belgian forecasts, and see what they will say.

Weather : [url]http://www.meteogroup.com/int/home/weather/world_weather/city_weather.html?cityID=32X1108&tx_mgcityweatherstatic_pi1[cityIDuse]=32X1108[/url]

STREAMS:
Programs used: Sopcast, TVU Player, PPMate, TV Ants
Schedule
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CHANNEL            STREAM          STREAM ID  TYPE                FP1  FP2  FP3  Qualifying  Race  
ITV                ITV Web         N/A        Flash - Web based     X    X                X     X
SpeedTV            Wheels          N/A        TVU Player                 X                X     X       
Star Sports        Star Sports     10005      TVU Player                                  X     X
                   Star Sports     N/A        PPMate                                      X     X
CCTV5              CCTV5           10007      TVUPlayer                                         X
                   CCTV5           6002       SopCast                                           X 
RTL                RTL Web         N/A        MMS - Web based                             X     X
Eurosport France   Eurosport (?)   N/A        TVAnts                X    X    X                     

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ITV 1 2, Wheels, Star Sports TVU, Star Sports PPMate, CCTV 5 SopCast, CCTV 5 TVU, CCTV 5 TVAnts, CCTV 5 PPMate, RTL
Notes:
  • For future use of the ITV stream you can save the .swf file to your hard drive and play it from there. You may lose the player controls though. It is possible that you may need a UK proxy for the ITV stream at some point.
  • There should be a SopCast stream for FP3, but it is very unstable due to it's high load and will suffer from a lot of buffering. Avoid it if you can.
  • Possible stream for GP2: Web, Player only (works in Media Player Classic)

2007 RACE:
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Winner                       Kimi Räikkönen
Winning team                 Ferrari
Winning time                 1:20:39.066

Pole time                    1:45.994
Pole driver                  Kimi Räikkönen
Pole team                    Ferrari

Fastest lap                  1:48.036
Fastest lap driver           Felipe Massa
Fastest lap team             Ferrari

TBK Rating                   4.53
TBK Rating Position          14th of 18
TBK Rating # Votes           194

TBK TV Rating                6.18
TBK TV Rating Position       7th of 18
TBK TV Rating # Votes        40

Finishers in points:
Pos   Driver                 Team               Laps   Time          Grid   Points
1     Kimi Räikkönen         Ferrari            44     1:20:39.066      1       10
2     Felipe Massa           Ferrari            44     +4.695           2        8
3     Fernando Alonso        McLaren-Mercedes   44     +14.343          3        6
4     Lewis Hamitlon         McLaren-Mercedes   44     +23.615          4        5
5     Nick Heidfeld          BMW Sauber         44     +51.879          6        4
6     Nico Rosberg           Williams-Toyota    44     +1:16.876        5        3
7     Mark Webber            Red Bull-Renault   44     +1:20.639        7        2
8     Heikki Kovalainen      Renault            44     +1:25.106        9        1


BEST TIMES OF 2007 RACE:
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Fastest lap                  1:45.070
Fastest lap driver           Kimi Räikkönen
Fastest lap team             Ferrari
Session                      Qualifying (Q2)

Sector 1 time                30.484 seconds
Sector 1 driver              Felipe Massa
Sector 1 team                Ferrari
Session                      Qualifying

Sector 2 time                45.724 seconds
Sector 2 driver              Lewis Hamilton
Sector 2 team                McLaren-Mercedes
Session                      Qualifying

Sector 3 time                28.616 seconds
Sector 3 driver              Kimi Räikkönen
Sector 3 team                Ferrari
Session                      Qualifying

Combined best lap            1:44.824

Notes:
Best sector times of races are unavailable, the sector times presented are the fastest ones of those that are available and may not represent the fastest times during the weekend.

CHAMPIONSHIP:
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DRIVERS:
Pos   Driver                 Team                  Points   Finishes in Pts   Wins   Podiums
1     Lewis Hamilton         McLaren-Mercedes      70                     9      4         7
2     Felipe Massa           Ferrari               64                     8      4         7
3     Kimi Räikkönen         Ferrari               57                     9      2         6
4     Robert Kubica          BMW Sauber            55                    10      1         5
5     Heikki Kovalainen      McLaren-Mercedes      43                     9      1         2
6     Nick Heidfeld          BMW Sauber            41                     7      0         3
7     Jarno Trulli           Toyota                26                     8      0         1
8     Fernando Alonso        Renault               18                     6      0         0
9     Mark Webber            Red Bull-Renault      18                     6      0         0
10    Timo Glock             Toyota                15                     3      0         1
11    Nelsinho Piquet        Renault               13                     3      0         1
12    Rubens Barrichello     Brazilian             11                     3      0         1
13    Nico Rosberg           Williams-Toyota       9                      4      0         1
14    Sebastian Vettel       STR-Ferrari           9                      4      0         0
15    Kazuki Nakajima        Williams-Toyota       8                      4      0         0
16    David Coulthard        Red Bull-Renault      6                      1      0         1
17    Jenson Button          Honda                 3                      1      0         0
18    Sebastien Bourdais     STR-Ferrari           2                      1      0         0
19    Giancarlo Fisichella   Force India-Ferrari   0                      0      0         0
20    Takuma Sato            Super Aguri-Honda     0                      0      0         0
21    Adrian Sutil           Force-India-Ferrari   0                      0      0         0
22    Anthony Davidson       Super Aguri-Honda     0                      0      0         0

TEAMS:
Pos   Team                  Points   Finishes in Pts   Wins   Podiums
1     Ferrari               121                   17      6        13
2     McLaren-Mercedes      113                   18      5        10
3     BMW Sauber            96                    17      1         8
4     Toyota                41                    10      0         2
5     Renault               31                     9      0         1
6     Red Bull-Renault      24                     7      0         1
7     Williams-Toyota       17                     8      0         1
8     Honda                 14                     4      0         1
9     STR-Ferrari           11                     5      0         0
10    Force India-Ferrari   0                      0      0         0
11    Super Aguri-Honda     0                      0      0         0


GP INFO:
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Laps                              44
Circuit length                    7.004 km (4.35 miles)
Race length                       308.176 km (191.53 miles
Turns                             21
Direction                         Clockwise

Most wins by single driver        Michael Schumacher (6)
Most wins by single constructor   McLaren (10)

Lap Record Race                   1:45.108
Lap Record Driver                 Kimi Räikkönen (2004)
Lap Record Team                   McLaren-Mercedes

Tires Prime                       Hard
Tires Optional                    Medium


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what are the chances of opening this thread at the exact same time? :lol:


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what are the chances of opening this thread at the exact same time? :lol:

:lol: you're 1 minute before me so i guess you win ??


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yours looks better though, so I think they can delete mine. Just gonna copy this over though:

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and offcourse, the big question: What is the weather forecast?
Well Belgian's biggest weather institute KMI is predicting a windy and rainy weekend. So a wet grand prix could be a possibility.
Weather.com is predicting a 60% chance of light rain on sunday, and 60% chance of showers for saturday. But I'm gonna go on the belgian forecasts, and see what they will say.


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yours looks better though, so I think they can delete mine. Just gonna copy this over though:

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and offcourse, the big question: What is the weather forecast?
Well Belgian's biggest weather institute KMI is predicting a windy and rainy weekend. So a wet grand prix could be a possibility.
Weather.com is predicting a 60% chance of light rain on sunday, and 60% chance of showers for saturday. But I'm gonna go on the belgian forecasts, and see what they will say.


Don't delete, edit it for the support races maybe :thumbsup:


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Lets use this one for F1, I will edit the other one for support races.


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already done :p


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Edited the typo :p


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lol, confusing


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Edit the title of the first post for be clear about what is Belgium in that time of politic community problems :p

Let's show to the world where is the best track :D


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is the premier race of the season, the rain predictions started positive, so the dry weather prediction starts on 80%, which can make a prediction of 95% that we can see a boring race


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Where's D A's information?


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Should I add it?

Need to mod it for phpBB2 though first (size of headlines and removal of spoiler tags).


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Looking forward to this race. :)


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Looking forward to this race. :)
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But better get some chuva this weekend after craptacular European GP.


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Should I add it?

Need to mod it for phpBB2 though first (size of headlines and removal of spoiler tags).


A lot of usefull information, considering the streams and stuff :thumbsup: It's up to you, I would appreciate it.


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I think I'll only go friday and saturday, got other things to do sunday prolly but we'll see :lol: I have allready lost count about how many Belgian GP's I visited, but the best one was still Spa 2000 with the amazing pass of Mika Hakkinen live at Combes 8)


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Might want to take an umbrella, Greg...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml ... 4935&links

The Atlas forums say rain is possible on Sunday too.


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There should be some kind of Spa 98 10 year anniversary celebration :p


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2007 Kimi Räikkönen
2005 Kimi Räikkönen
2004 Kimi Räikkönen
2002 Michael Schumacher
2001 Michael Schumacher
2000 Mika Häkkinen


Actually, the car is good enough to continue like that. Would be nice to read 2008 Kimi Räikkönen. I just hope the best :thumbsup:


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