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FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO SANTANDER D'ITALIA 2008
12, 13, 14 September

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Location : Monza, near Milan, (Northern) Italy
Time zone : GMT +1
Circuit Length : 5.793 km
Turns : 11
Lap Record : 1:21.046 (Barrichello - Ferrari - 2004)
Website : http://www.italiangp.it

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HISTORY
From http://www.grandprix.com

They call it La Pista Magica - the magic race track - and as soon as you arrive in the old royal park at Monza you know why. The ghosts are there in the woods. The buildings talk of legends and of heroes, of great races and shocking accidents. You can feel your spine tingle with the excitement that emanates from the thousands of tifosi, the Ferrari fans who flock to Monza every year to watch the red cars from Maranello. For them, nothing is impossible. There is always a little magic to help them. Of all the racing tracks in the world this is the one to visit for it the embodiment of the joy and thrill that is always in the background when racing people gather.

You have to forget the bad points - and there are many. The traffic is awful, the pickpockets are busy, the policemen are lazy or frenetic but rarely anything in between. Fans drool at the gates, they jeer at Ferrari's rivals. They have even been known to throw rocks.

But go out into the woods and see the tree trunks with nails hammered into them so that the fans can climb to a perfect viewing point, or stay up all night with them and watch them dance on the track the night before a race and you begin to understand. If you've ever watched John Frankenheimer's movie Grand Prix you will know Monza - it hasn't changed much. It is where Jean-Pierre Sarti's Ferrari goes out of control on the banking and smashes through the trees onto the track below. It is where James Garner stands on the main straight in the early morning on the day after the race, mulling over his victory. The camera pulls gradually and majestically away into the sky.

But it is more than just the passion and the history. Monza is all about the brave. If you sit around long enough in the Formula 1 paddock you will hear people talk about Formula 1 being boring. Wander out along the muddy paths through the woods to the Lesmo corners and you will never again say that F1 is dull.

Monza dates from the years immediately following World War I when the automobile was new and exciting and those who had survived the fighting were keen to live life to the full.

The work began in February 1922 when racing stars Vincenzo Lancia and Felice Nazzaro laid the first stone. Two days later local conservationists stopped the work and it was not until May that the 3500 workmen were able to go back into action. The 6.25-mile track was finished by the end of July. It was an amazing feat. At the time it was only the third permanent racing circuit in the world, after Brooklands and Indianapolis. The first race was in September with Pietro Bordino winning in a Fiat. A week later Monza held its first Italian Grand Prix and 150,000 turned out to see it. Bordino won again. Ever since then the second weekend in September has been the Monza weekend.

The track has been rebuilt on several occasions but the basic design is much as it was. The original flat banking was replaced by the fearsome high banking that can still be seen today, built in 1955 but used for only a few years before drivers began to boycott the event on the grounds of safety. Stand on that banking and you will know why the bravest of the brave lost their nerve. Monza was always a high-speed track and while chicanes have come along to slow the cars and the old days of Monza slip-streaming battles are a thing of the past, the essential element of speed is still there. And when there is such speed there are always accidents.

Until the horrible Le Mans disaster in 1955 Monza was the place where racing's worst accident had occurred, Emilio Materassi crashing his Talbot opposite the pits in 1928, killing himself and 27 spectators. Wolfgang von Trips cartwheeled into the crowd after a brush with Jim Clark in 1961. The German and 13 others died.

In 1933 three top drivers (the opera-loving Giuseppe Campari, his protege Baconin Borzacchini and the Czech aristocrat Count Stanislas Czaykowski) died on the same weekend. In 1955 the sport's top driver Alberto Ascari died at the wheel of a Ferrari sportscar while testing in the corner that now bears his name. No-one knows why. In 1970 Jochen Rindt was on his way to the world championship when a brake failure sent his Lotus smashing into the wall at the Parabolica. He died before they could get him to hospital. Eight years later the start of the Italian Grand Prix ended in a cataclysmic accident as the drivers jockeyed for position on the run down to the first corner. Ronnie Peterson died. The list is long, longer than anywhere else other than Indianapolis.

And yet the track has seen some incredibly heroic moments as well. In 1956 Peter Collins was in a position to win the World Championship in his Lancia Ferrari but 15 laps from the finish, during a routine pit stop, he handed his car over to team leader and rival Juan-Manuel Fangio to let the Argentine take the title. Collins said that he would get his chance another day.

It was at Monza that Niki Lauda returned to racing in 1976 just a few weeks after his fiery accident at the Nurburgring. The frightened, bloodied figure, disfigured by his burns overcame his fears and created a legend.

If you read through the record books you will find that Monza is still - and probably always will be - the venue of the fastest ever Grand Prix and the one with the closest finish - the Italian GP of 1971 when Peter Gethin popped out from behind Ronnie Peterson to cross the line just 0.01sec ahead of Ronnie Peterson after averaging 150.754mph from start to finish. It was the last of the great Monza slipstreamers before the chicanes arrived.

It was at Monza in 1988, a few weeks after Enzo Ferrari's death, that McLaren was beaten for the first and only time that year when Ayrton Senna misjudged a maneuver as he tried to lap the Williams of Jean-Louis Schlesser with only a few laps to go and ended up in the sandtrap, allowing Gerhard Berger and Michele Alboreto to score an amazing 1-2 finish for Ferrari. That was magic. There is no other explanation.

Monza's fame lies more than anything with Grand Prix racing but the track has long been the venue of other great races, including the famous Monza Lotteria, when the young drivers were able to grab a moment of glory and, perhaps, a Grand Prix drive. The Monza 1000 sportscar race was another classic with stories which could only have happened at Monza. In 1985 the racing had to stop after 800km when the frontrunners arrived to find that a very large tree had been blown down across the track and Hans Stuck tried to convince his fellow drivers that they could lift the tree out of the way and get on with the racing.

Monza was the venue in 1957 and 1958 for a pair of curious Europe versus America races known as The Races of the Two Worlds in which Indycar roadsters battled with Formula 1 cars.

Everywhere you go at Monza there are stories - even in the camp sites. It was in one of these that Frank Williams used to have his head office when he was wheeling and dealing in his early days and where a Ferrari sportscar came over the wall while it was being tested and landed next to his tent.

The track is gradually being upgraded as F1 demands more and more but thankfully the great Monza grandstand remains where it has been since 1938, witnessing the amazing events in the park. In 1945 it was filled with Allied soldiers who watched tanks parade down the main straight. One can only hope that they will never tear it town, nor the curious Pirelli "scoreboard" towers which stand on either side of it.

Stand on the top of one of these - if you can convince someone to let you in - and on a clear day you will be able to see down to the Curva Grande with the Italian Alps visible away to the north and the old Monza banking curling away into the trees and you will get as near as heaven as you can at a motor racing circuit.

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Previous winners:
2007: Fernando Alonso
2006: Michael Schumacher
2005: Jean-Pierre Montoya
2004: Rubens Barrichello
2003: Michael Schumacher
2002: Michael Schumacher
2001: Jean-Pierre Montoya
2000: Michael Schumacher
1999: Heinz-Harald Frentzen
1998: Michael Schumacher
1997: David Coulthard
1996: Michael Schumacher
1995: Johnny Herbert
1994: Damon Hill
1993: Damon Hill
1992: Ayrton Senna
1991: Nigel Mansell
1990: Ayrton Senna
=> 10 different winners in 17 years :) :thumbsup:


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TIMING

Friday 12 September
- Free practise 1: 10.00-11.30
- Free practise 2: 14.00-15.30

Saturday 13 September
- Free practise 3: 11.00-12.00
- Qualifying: 14.00

Sunday 14 September
- Race: 14.03


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STREAMS
Programs used: Sopcast, TVU Player, PPMate, TV Ants
Schedule
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CHANNEL            STREAM          STREAM ID  TYPE                FP1  FP2  FP3  Qualifying  Race  
ITV                ITV Web         N/A        Flash - Web based     X    X                X     X
SpeedTV            Wheels          N/A        TVU Player                 X                X     X       
Star Sports        Star Sports     10005      TVU Player                                  X     X
                   Star Sports     N/A        PPMate                                      X     X
CCTV5              CCTV5           10007      TVUPlayer                                         X
                   CCTV5           6002       SopCast                                           X 
RTL                RTL Web         N/A        MMS - Web based                             X     X
Eurosport France   Eurosport (?)   N/A        TVAnts                X    X    X                     

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ITV 1 2, Wheels, Star Sports TVU, Star Sports PPMate, CCTV 5 SopCast, CCTV 5 TVU, CCTV 5 TVAnts, CCTV 5 PPMate, RTL
Notes:
  • For future use of the ITV stream you can save the .swf file to your hard drive and play it from there. You may lose the player controls though. It is possible that you may need a UK proxy for the ITV stream at some point.
  • There should be a SopCast stream for FP3, but it is very unstable due to it's high load and will suffer from a lot of buffering. Avoid it if you can.
  • Possible stream for GP2: Web, Player only (works in Media Player Classic)


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2007 RACE

Winner Fernando Alonso
Winning team McLaren
Winning time 1:18:37.806

Pole time 1:21.997
Pole driver Fernando Alonso
Pole team McLaren

Fastest lap 1:22.871
Fastest lap driver Fernando Alonso
Fastest lap team McLaren

Finishers in points:
1 1 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes 53 1:18:37.806 1 10
2 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 53 +6.0 secs 2 8
3 6 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 53 +27.3 secs 5 6
4 9 Nick Heidfeld BMW 53 +56.5 secs 4 5
5 10 Robert Kubica BMW 53 +60.5 secs 6 4
6 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota 53 +65.8 secs 8 3
7 4 Heikki Kovalainen Renault 53 +66.7 secs 7 2
8 7 Jenson Button Honda 53 +72.1 secs 10 1


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BEST TIMES OF 2007 RACE

Fastest lap 1:21.356
Fastest lap driver Fernando Alonso
Fastest lap team McLaren
Session Qualifying (Q2)

Sector 1 time 26.605 seconds
Sector 1 driver Fernando Alonso
Sector 1 team McLaren

Sector 2 time 27.709 seconds
Sector 2 driver Lewis Hamilton
Sector 2 team McLaren-Mercedes

Sector 3 time 26.949 seconds
Sector 3 driver Fernando Alonso
Sector 3 team McLaren

Combined best lap 1:21.263



Championship
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DRIVERS:
Pos   Driver                 Team                  Points   Finishes in Pts   Wins   Podiums
1     Lewis Hamilton         McLaren-Mercedes      76                    10      4         8
2     Felipe Massa           Ferrari               74                     9      5         8
3     Robert Kubica          BMW Sauber            58                    11      1         5
4     Kimi Räikkönen         Ferrari               57                     9      2         6
5     Nick Heidfeld          BMW Sauber            49                     8      0         4
6     Heikki Kovalainen      McLaren-Mercedes      43                     9      1         2
7     Jarno Trulli           Toyota                26                     8      0         1
8     Fernando Alonso        Renault               23                     7      0         0
9     Mark Webber            Red Bull-Renault      19                     6      0         0
10    Timo Glock             Toyota                15                     3      0         1
11    Nelsinho Piquet        Renault               13                     3      0         1
12    Sebastian Vettel       STR-Ferrari           13                     5      0         0
13    Rubens Barrichello     Brazilian             11                     3      0         1
14    Nico Rosberg           Williams-Toyota       9                      4      0         1
15    Kazuki Nakajima        Williams-Toyota       8                      4      0         0
16    David Coulthard        Red Bull-Renault      6                      1      0         1
17    Sebastien Bourdais     STR-Ferrari           4                      2      0         0
18    Jenson Button          Honda                 3                      1      0         0
19    Giancarlo Fisichella   Force India-Ferrari   0                      0      0         0
20    Takuma Sato            Super Aguri-Honda     0                      0      0         0
21    Adrian Sutil           Force-India-Ferrari   0                      0      0         0
22    Anthony Davidson       Super Aguri-Honda     0                      0      0         0

TEAMS:
Pos   Team                  Points   Finishes in Pts   Wins   Podiums
1     Ferrari               131                   18      7        14
2     McLaren-Mercedes      119                   19      5        11
3     BMW Sauber            107                   19      1         9
4     Toyota                41                    10      0         2
5     Renault               36                    10      0         1
6     Red Bull-Renault      25                     8      0         1
7     Williams-Toyota       17                     8      0         1
8     STR-Ferrari           17                     7      0         0
9     Honda                 14                     4      0         1
10    Force India-Ferrari   0                      0      0         0
11    Super Aguri-Honda     0                      0      0         0


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GP INFO

Laps 53
Circuit length 5.793 km
Race length 306.720 km
Turns 11
Direction Clockwise

Most wins by single driver Michael Schumacher (6)
Most wins by single constructor Ferrari

Lap Record Race 1:21.046
Lap Record Driver Rubens Barrichello (2004)
Lap Record Team Ferrari

Tires Prime Hard
Tires Optional Medium


Note*: I will be at stand 6C :D :D :D (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMRUlm2m5kw)


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Monza :thumbsup:


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Classic track, F1 wouldn't be the same without it


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I think this kind of Thread deserve a better first post...be free to edit it when you have time :thumbsup:


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Circuit the same as last year??

Very difficult circuit to pass on. Don't believe me?? The Hamilton pass last year is the only pass I've seen at Monza that's actually good since Mansell passing Senna in 1991.

Raikkonen will tell you how hard it is to pass.


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Last year Rosberg passed Button


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Circuit the same as last year??

Very difficult circuit to pass on. Don't believe me?? The Hamilton pass last year is the only pass I've seen at Monza that's actually good since Mansell passing Senna in 1991.

Raikkonen will tell you how hard it is to pass.



Are you serious? There's been alot of overtaking at Monza on the latest version of the track. Especially in the first two chicanes. Last few years have been bad because of TC and braking assistant. These two systems helped the drivers to do pretty much optimum brakings and therefore outbraking another was rarely seen. This year it should be better as it has been proved in few other races already. I'm sure that this is going to be a legendary race. I hope that Ferrari takes 1-2 at their home event. :flag:

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Revenge for Mclaren!!!!!!

Lewis to win the race by 50 seconds... to be disqulified for taking both hands off the wheel when celebrating!


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I think this kind of Thread deserve a better first post...be free to edit it when you have time :thumbsup:


I thought the same thing. I love reading those big posts with storys about circuits and it's history.

And I hope this turns out to be a great race. I love Monza.


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Squall wrote:
I think this kind of Thread deserve a better first post...be free to edit it when you have time :thumbsup:


I thought the same thing. I love reading those big posts with storys about circuits and it's history.

And I hope this turns out to be a great race. I love Monza.


I will do my best this afternoon :) :thumbsup:


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Revenge for Mclaren!!!!!!

Lewis to win the race by 50 seconds... to be disqulified for taking both hands off the wheel when celebrating!


and Ferrari revenge for last year's McLaren victory :p


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At least the teams haven't been able to test on the track for days beforehand as usually happens with the Italian Grand Prix, so there should be more to see on Friday.


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BMW should do well here. I seem to remember them being very strong last year.


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I want Lewis to lead onto the last lap and then one of the Ferrari's questionably passing him by cutting a chicane. Then see if the stewards have the balls to penalise a winning Ferrari at Monza :)


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At least the teams haven't been able to test on the track for days beforehand as usually happens with the Italian Grand Prix, so there should be more to see on Friday.


Didn't they test here like just over a week ago??


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BMW should do well here. I seem to remember them being very strong last year.


They were strong at Montreal, and yes last 2 years BMW was good here


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I updated to the best of my possibilities.
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Accoding to those weather websites, It's expecting rain all weekend! :D


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Accoding to those weather websites, It's expecting rain all weekend! :D

I don't want to get wet damnit. I thought of getting a nice colour instead of this corpse-like one :(


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