Omega wrote:
Verstappens last retirement was Australia 2022, since then he finished in the points 33 races in a row, winning 27 of them.
It's cool he's breaking all the records, but what if it continues next year? If 2024 is going to be identical...
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| Author: | SBan83 [ Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
DRS was calibrated perfectly today. No comical runs to make the car in front a sitting duck like at most tracks, letting us see some great battles into Turn 1 and through CG. |
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| Author: | Omega [ Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
Verstappens last retirement was Australia 2022, since then he finished in the points 33 races in a row, winning 27 of them. |
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| Author: | Karan [ Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
SBan83 wrote: DRS was calibrated perfectly today. No comical runs to make the car in front a sitting duck like at most tracks, letting us see some great battles into Turn 1 and through CG. That, and the low downforce package of Monza results in a much lesser speed delta with DRS versus other circuits. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
Omega wrote: Verstappens last retirement was Australia 2022, since then he finished in the points 33 races in a row, winning 27 of them. It's cool he's breaking all the records, but what if it continues next year? If 2024 is going to be identical...
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| Author: | SBan83 [ Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
Karan wrote: SBan83 wrote: DRS was calibrated perfectly today. No comical runs to make the car in front a sitting duck like at most tracks, letting us see some great battles into Turn 1 and through CG. That, and the low downforce package of Monza results in a much lesser speed delta with DRS versus other circuits. True, I'd completely forgotten about the low wings/df package lessening the effect of DRS overall as well. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Sun Sep 03, 2023 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
Omega wrote: Verstappens last retirement was Australia 2022, since then he finished in the points 33 races in a row, winning 27 of them. the record sits at 48, Hamilton had covid as his combo breaker |
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| Author: | Omega [ Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
I´m not saying Verstappen holds the record. I´m just impressed that of those 33 races, he failed to win only 6 of them. (Not counting sprint races ofcourse, because who cares about those.) |
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| Author: | EAS [ Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
After the race, Sainz had his watch robbed. His staff and Carlos himself chased the robbers who were caught by police later. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fw ... 0515803%2F so how much of that could be butthurt because Red Bull perfected the domination game like never before? |
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| Author: | EsbenT [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
I don't know Toto personally, but given the way he's portrayed I'd say he's fairly annoyed. |
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| Author: | micha [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
LucasWheldon wrote: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport.com%2Ff1%2Fnews%2Fwolff-verstappen-f1-wins-record-wikipedia%2F10515803%2F so how much of that could be butthurt because Red Bull perfected the domination game like never before? Recently I've seen a lot of "news items" which I put away as typical internet shit stirring. Hamilton constantly saying the rules should be changed because RBR's dominance is bad for the sport. Toto claiming Lewis is the only driver capable of admitting fault. I'm not sure what to think of it since surely they cannot be that hypocritical and out of touch with reality. Or are they really losing their marbles? |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
micha wrote: LucasWheldon wrote: https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport.com%2Ff1%2Fnews%2Fwolff-verstappen-f1-wins-record-wikipedia%2F10515803%2F so how much of that could be butthurt because Red Bull perfected the domination game like never before? Recently I've seen a lot of "news items" which I put away as typical internet shit stirring. Hamilton constantly saying the rules should be changed because RBR's dominance is bad for the sport. Toto claiming Lewis is the only driver capable of admitting fault. I'm not sure what to think of it since surely they cannot be that hypocritical and out of touch with reality. Or are they really losing their marbles? Press effect, I reckon. I think Wolff and Horner are genuinely bitches, but at the moment Horner doesn't really have anything to complain about so they concentrate on Toto and Lewis. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
Yeah they'll say something and the clickbait press will stir it up for clicks. Usually a throw away comment but blown out of proportion. Honestly the talk about changing rules to combat domination have always been around. Recently Horner was complaining that no one ever said that about Merc and people found articles from 2015 with Horner saying just that. I'm sure some of it's just shit-stirring. |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:36 pm ] |
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It's the same with all the trolls still bitching about Abu Dhabi 21 and saying the FIA and Red Bull are in bed together. A few years back it was Merc and FIA, before that Ferrari 
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| Author: | Bleu [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
SBan83 wrote: DRS was calibrated perfectly today. No comical runs to make the car in front a sitting duck like at most tracks, letting us see some great battles into Turn 1 and through CG. For years, I would say Curva Grande to Roggia has the best non-DRS battles in the season. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
So I guess news are usually the same, the only thing that changes are the parties involved I guess the only thing that doesn't change are the stats .47th win for Max Verstappen -10 in a row (new record) -27 wins since the new regulation adoption .1st fastest lap for Oscar Piastri -137th different driver to set a fastest lap in a points paying GP .106th win for Red Bull -15 in a row so far (24 of the last 25 races) -first one-two for the team at Monza .20000 laps raced by Fernando Alonso in points paying GP -extend his start record to 370 |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
Fabs wrote: It's the same with all the trolls still bitching about Abu Dhabi 21 and saying the FIA and Red Bull are in bed together. A few years back it was Merc and FIA, before that Ferrari We can add FIArrari and Ferrari International Assistance to the F1 boomer thread
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| Author: | Gabriel [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
gkmotorsport wrote: Fabs wrote: It's the same with all the trolls still bitching about Abu Dhabi 21 and saying the FIA and Red Bull are in bed together. A few years back it was Merc and FIA, before that Ferrari We can add FIArrari and Ferrari International Assistance to the F1 boomer thread Peak FIArrari was probably Spa 2008. Maybe Italy 2006 also, with that Alonso blocking penalty. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Sep 07, 2023 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
What about Monza 2003 with the tyres |
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| Author: | Karan [ Sat Sep 09, 2023 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio d'Italia 2023 |
All this criticism about Perez from within Red Bull and the paddock is frankly baffling. I mean, sure we'd all expect the 2nd driver in that dominant car to be far closer to Verstappen. But is that really necessary? He's on track to help Verstappen win his 3rd WDC, rarely ever tangles/squabbles with Verstappen on-track, isn't quick enough to stress him out at all, doesn't create controversy or demand equal #1 status, and while his qualifying performances are often lacking, he's one of the feistiest drivers on race day and often finishes in a competitive position without making too many errors unlike the other 2nd drivers that Red Bull previously employed. Not sure what more they need from that 2nd seat tbh. |
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