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Formula 1 Rolex Australian Grand Prix 2023
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Author:  webbsy [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:56 am ]
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Massi was at the race? Nice of the FIA to pay homage to him. What an absolute shambles.

Oh and who would have thought that the first Alpine bingle would cost them a lot of points. Lol.
Author:  Juihi [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:59 am ]
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webbsy wrote:
Massi was at the race? Nice of the FIA to pay homage to him. What an absolute shambles.


Well he works with Supercars? I did like Crofty promptly shutting down Ted when he tried to stir shit about Masi on the coverage
Author:  codename_47 [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:23 am ]
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micha wrote:
Fox wrote:
VER and HAM to collide and ALO to win :D


Sainz plowing into Alonso who collects Hamilton and verstappen. Gasly picking up his second win just to lose it 5 hours later over an obscure rule related something that happened before the start.


Well, close, but no cigar :lol:

Before they decided to arbitartily go with whatever rules they felt like, the order was Sainz 3rd, Hulk 4th

Imagine after all this, that Hulk finally got his podium? :ohmy:

Aston have to count their lucky stars though, especially Stroll, who fucked his own race over completely on his own, and got a gimme the like of which I've never seen before outside of Flashbacks on the Playstation F1 games :lol:

Still love the changes to the track though, this place is a flat out blast now and I'm all for it

Anyway, interesting start, long boring section, shitty end. 5/10 race
Author:  Omega [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:29 am ]
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codename_47 wrote:

Before they decided to arbitartily go with whatever rules they felt like, the order was Sainz 3rd, Hulk 4th

In which rulebook in the history of every motorsport ever held would the order be decided on a lap that was not yet completed because of a red flag?

Are you inventing facts again?
Author:  Omega [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:01 pm ]
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For me this was a good race. Lots of overtaking all race long. And because it seems overtaking is now possible again, I did not fear a "close racing but why bother cause they won´t be able to overtake" scenario and was genuinely excited about the battle from 2nd to 5th. Hamilton did a great job keeping Alonso out of DRS range, they all drove like hell every single lap and it was nice to see. If you call that boring, you didn´t pay attention.

The red flags were ridiculous though, it unnecessary destroyed Alpine´s race.
Author:  westracing01 [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:07 pm ]
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That was simultaneously a good and totally asinine race.
Author:  amq55 [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:52 pm ]
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For all their flaws, WTCR actually figured out what to do with SC's. Adding race laps to the end seems to be the best way to deal with this and avoid these farces.
Author:  Omega [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:05 pm ]
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amq55 wrote:
For all their flaws, WTCR actually figured out what to do with SC's. Adding race laps to the end seems to be the best way to deal with this and avoid these farces.

Don´t get me started on WTCR. I once watched a race weekend that had two races with in total 23 laps. 21 of them were behind SC, including both final laps. A farce only topped by Spa 2021.
Author:  FiatFan83 [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:34 pm ]
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Wow, I fell asleep, so I just finished watching the race, and WTF was that finish? They restarted just to finish under safety car? Why bother, or better yet, why not actually restart for a one lap shootout? Oh, and Leclare is a fucking muppet.

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Author:  FiatFan83 [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:35 pm ]
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westracing01 wrote:
That was simultaneously a good and totally asinine race.
When my wife asks how the race was I'm just going to say, "yes"

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Author:  Chris A [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:54 pm ]
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It’s as if F1 looked at last week’s NASCAR race at Austin and felt uncontrollable jealousy instead of superiority.
Author:  amq55 [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:08 pm ]
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Haas protest dismissed.
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:40 pm ]
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I'm torn on the rules. A standing restart obviously has a greater chance of mixing things up and creating drama, but it doesn't seem fair when there's only a few laps to go.

The other option is to throw the red and then restart behind the Safety Car. We still get a proper finish that way. The problem with this, is that everyone can change tyres during the red flag. You would likely end up with everyone on the same tyre and not seeing much action. I really want to see the rule changed so that the teams can't do anything to the cars under a red flag. However, if everyone has driven through debris, is it a safety issue to not allow them to change tyres? (Maybe make it so you can change but have to stay on the same compound?)

That first red flag was still a stupid decision as well.
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:47 pm ]
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I'd say in certain circumstances, letting them change tyres as a precaution is needed, but only to the same compound. That way earlier in the race they're still going to need to change compounds during the race. Last thing we want is a puncture leading to a big crash because they chose track position having run through a debris field.

Seeing the replays and seeing the metal shards go everywhere it was understandable, they just restarted the race the wrong way.

First red could have been done under SC easy.
Author:  Astrolabe [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:52 pm ]
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The manipulation of the result of the 2021 championship definitely made the FIA hostage to itself, when it used the “false argument” of having to finish the races under a green flag to carry out the fraud. Now we have to watch ridiculous shows like Melbourne, it will probably always be like this given the incompetence of the federation. A shame.
Author:  Omega [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:50 pm ]
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All teams have scored points already. This does not happen every season, and certainly not after 3 races.

18 drivers have scored points.
Author:  webbsy [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:52 pm ]
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So the start to McLaren's year has been disastrous. And after three races they are 5th in the constructors. I'd argue Alpine's start has been even worse considering all the talk they were doing in the off season.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:07 pm ]
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all I can say that those shenanigans from race direction is creating a dangerous precedent

specially if you consider that the next race is Baku
Author:  Schumifan [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:28 pm ]
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Juihi wrote:
Schumifan wrote:
So for Sainz and Alpine the restart did happen but for everyone else it didn't. Literally making it up as they go along


What would you have done?


Either leave the order as it was after all the carnage and finish the race like that, or take the order from before the restart and go back to the start of lap 57 and try again. They can't say lap 57 happened but take the order from before it as if it didn't.
Author:  Chris A [ Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:41 pm ]
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Watching it back, it’s even more galling that race direction’s IMMEDIATE reaction to their second red flag wiping out half the field was “ooooh, let’s try to do it again!” Garbage, scandalous, inexcusable officiating.
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