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Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
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Author:  Toto87 [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Coldtyre wrote:
Toto87 wrote:
According to the rules, 50-75% race wasn't stopped by the red flag at the end of the timing.

So full points.

Sorry toto what does that mean?

If a race is stopped by the red flag before the end, then half points or 75% points are rewarded depending on the duration of the race.

This time the red flag didn't end the race... So full points it seems :lol:

Don't ask me why, that is so dumb.
Author:  Schumifan [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Coldtyre wrote:
Schumifan wrote:
JJ wrote:

So if they had restarted with 5 minutes to go, they could have given full points by finishing those ~2 laps?


According to that logic then... yes? Absolute lunacy

But isn't 75% based on number of laps run, not timing???


Apparently 75% isn't 75% when the red flag is in the middle rather than at the end. The FIA have outdone themselves :lol:
Author:  webbsy [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Coldtyre wrote:
Toto87 wrote:
According to the rules, 50-75% race wasn't stopped by the red flag at the end of the timing.

So full points.

Sorry toto what does that mean?


Means that if the race is red flagged early, but then finishes as a timed race even though 75% not completed it is still full points.

But if the race went ahead normally and THEN there was red flag before 75% then full points are NOT awarded.

So race stoppages are not equal. Just dumb.
Author:  cookie [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
They can't calculate at the FIA, no wonder there is confusion about the budget calculations. I don't believe a thing the FIA calculates
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Schumifan wrote:
JJ wrote:
Toto87 wrote:
According to the rules, 50-75% race wasn't stopped by the red flag at the end of the timing.

So full points.


So if they had restarted with 5 minutes to go, they could have given full points by finishing those ~2 laps?


According to that logic then... yes? Absolute lunacy


Just about sums up the rule makers.

This season could not end soon enough. After Imola its been up there with 2002.
Author:  Juihi [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
webbsy wrote:
Coldtyre wrote:
Toto87 wrote:
According to the rules, 50-75% race wasn't stopped by the red flag at the end of the timing.

So full points.

Sorry toto what does that mean?


Means that if the race is red flagged early, but then finishes as a timed race even though 75% not completed it is still full points.

But if the race went ahead normally and THEN there was red flag before 75% then full points are NOT awarded.

So race stoppages are not equal. Just dumb.


Yea, like they followed the rules rather than making them up on the fly as suggested. It's just the rules are a tad stupid
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Toto87 wrote:
According to the rules, 50-75% race wasn't stopped by the red flag at the end of the timing.

So full points.


Nascar is rubbing their hands waiting to pull one of those whenever one of their favorite drivers get in that position
Author:  codename_47 [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
It says a lot that the FIA are willing to change their regulations on the fly to cover their own backs but won't change their starting regulations ever to make sure we get more racing in wet conditions :whistling:
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:31 am ]
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Spare a thought for Latifi. So much going on that no one has noticed he actually scored points.
Author:  Coldtyre [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Thanks guys for the explanations. It's ridiculous because this rule should be related to the effort made by drivers, not administrative consoderations. Either %of race distance, or of the two-hour max race time.

So if we had a 10-min time race would still be full points? lol
Author:  Juihi [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
mclaren2008 wrote:
Schumifan wrote:
JJ wrote:

So if they had restarted with 5 minutes to go, they could have given full points by finishing those ~2 laps?


According to that logic then... yes? Absolute lunacy


Just about sums up the rule makers.

This season could not end soon enough. After Imola its been up there with 2002.


Yea, hoping next season is closer, it's been appalling sitting through 2017, 18, 19, 20 :yuk:
Author:  webbsy [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Juihi wrote:
webbsy wrote:
Coldtyre wrote:
Sorry toto what does that mean?


Means that if the race is red flagged early, but then finishes as a timed race even though 75% not completed it is still full points.

But if the race went ahead normally and THEN there was red flag before 75% then full points are NOT awarded.

So race stoppages are not equal. Just dumb.


Yea, like they followed the rules rather than making them up on the fly as suggested. It's just the rules are a tad stupid


Yes, but the way they have communicated it sure does make them come across as on the fly. Even the teams had to scratch heads as to what it was about.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
cookie wrote:
They can't calculate at the FIA, no wonder there is confusion about the budget calculations. I don't believe a thing the FIA calculates


if an engineer uses a FIA calculator to make building it would make the Burj Khalifa like the leaning tower of Pisa
Author:  Schumifan [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Max not knowing if he should enter the Champion Room to sit on the Champion Chair for a few pointless seconds is hilarious
Author:  JJ [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
I's obvious when they changed the point rules after Spa last year, they totally forgot this scenario.
Author:  micha [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:32 am ]
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Even that interview is full of disbelief
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
LucasWheldon wrote:
Toto87 wrote:
According to the rules, 50-75% race wasn't stopped by the red flag at the end of the timing.

So full points.


Nascar is rubbing their hands waiting to pull one of those whenever one of their favorite drivers get in that position


That's already happened - remember that yellow at Homestead for Austin Dillon :whistling:
Author:  Toto87 [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
Coldtyre wrote:
Thanks guys for the explanations. It's ridiculous because this rule should be related to the effort made by drivers, not administrative consoderations. Either %of race distance, or of the two-hour max race time.

So if we had a 10-min time race would still be full points? lol

Yes according to the rule. :lol:
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
All red flags are equal but some red flags are more equal than others.
Author:  Juihi [ Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Honda Japanese Grand Prix 2022
webbsy wrote:
Juihi wrote:
webbsy wrote:

Means that if the race is red flagged early, but then finishes as a timed race even though 75% not completed it is still full points.

But if the race went ahead normally and THEN there was red flag before 75% then full points are NOT awarded.

So race stoppages are not equal. Just dumb.


Yea, like they followed the rules rather than making them up on the fly as suggested. It's just the rules are a tad stupid


Yes, but the way they have communicated it sure does make them come across as on the fly. Even the teams had to scratch heads as to what it was about.


Yea for sure
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