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James B · PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:59 pm

Fully onboard the Pink Mercedes hypetrain

XQR · PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:37 pm

James B wrote:

My understanding is that no team could officially protest until they got to a race and the car was in action. Red Bull are protesting based on a regulation that states "no adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion"

Reading between the lines of what Horner said earlier, it seems Red Bull's protest is more to get clarification (i.e. cover their own arses) before they stick their own DAS system on their cars. I could be wrong but I don't think there's any expectation of the protest "succeeding"

So... isn't that exactly what the system does?

Shaddix · PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:49 pm

James B wrote:

My understanding is that no team could officially protest until they got to a race and the car was in action. Red Bull are protesting based on a regulation that states "no adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion"

Reading between the lines of what Horner said earlier, it seems Red Bull's protest is more to get clarification (i.e. cover their own arses) before they stick their own DAS system on their cars. I could be wrong but I don't think there's any expectation of the protest "succeeding"

Makes you wonder: how hard would it be for a driver to adapt to the DAS system. It does bring an extra dimension to the racing and I can imagine a bit of practice wouldn't be luxurious...

Fabs · PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:56 pm

James B wrote:

Fully onboard the Pink Mercedes hypetrain

I hope they don't miss this chance to score big points by having Stroll play some bowling at turn 1 on Sunday.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:24 pm

haha Racing Point could be the Lotus from 2012-13, with a very competent car, but with a Grosjean-like driver in one of the seats

J.Morelli · PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:54 pm

It's beautiful to see the 2-Axis steering wheel in Mercedes...it solved that issue they had with low adherence in the straights....so basically, it's gonna be really hard to beat Mercedes again. But Racing Point is definetly the team that will cheer up everyone coz I'm sure there will be surprises.

amq55 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am

FIA confirms DAS is legal.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:48 am

amq55 wrote:

FIA grants boredom to all the remaining races this season.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:29 am

DAS legal

Sucked in Stappy and Red Bull :lol:

deggis · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:33 am

XQR wrote:

James B wrote:

My understanding is that no team could officially protest until they got to a race and the car was in action. Red Bull are protesting based on a regulation that states "no adjustment may be made to any suspension system while the car is in motion"

Reading between the lines of what Horner said earlier, it seems Red Bull's protest is more to get clarification (i.e. cover their own arses) before they stick their own DAS system on their cars. I could be wrong but I don't think there's any expectation of the protest "succeeding"

So... isn't that exactly what the system does?

Quote:

Red Bull argued that the DAS was a moveable aerodynamic device and that it was an adjustment to the suspension while the car was in motion.

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The system has been banned by a change of rules for 2021, but governing body the FIA had already said it considers DAS to be legal under the current rules.

Following Red Bull's protest, stewards at the season-opening Austrian Grand Prix declared that the system "would be illegal if it was not part of the steering system".

But it was a steering device because it "realigns the two front wheels via the same central mechanism that conventional steering does" and it "remains under the full control of the driver".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53285413

Fabs · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:08 am

So can the teams without DAS implement it now without having to redesign half their car? Or is it an easy thing to add?

Man this season is going to be a walkover for Mercedes :lol:

RtN · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:23 am

The rumour is that Red Bull have already come up with something else that is controlled by moving the steering wheel and they wanted formal clarification from the FIA on whether anything controlled by the driver moving the steering wheel is legal or not.

It is legal, so we shall see if the rumour is correct.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:05 am

absolutely perfect weather

Schumifan · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:24 am

Latifi's the first one to find the barrier

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:26 am

Castrol turn claims another car

DinoMarko93 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:46 am

Toto looks like a complete idiot with the visor. Hilarious

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:48 am

Toto

XQR · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:33 pm

I'm sorry to keep bringing this up; but why is the DAS system legal?

It appears to directly break the rules of:

1. adjusting the car set up whilst it is in motion

2. making changes to the car under parc ferme conditions

3. possible safety complications

Fabs · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:48 pm

amq55 · PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:53 pm

XQR wrote:

I'm sorry to keep bringing this up; but why is the DAS system legal?

It appears to directly break the rules of:

1. adjusting the car set up whilst it is in motion

2. making changes to the car under parc ferme conditions

3. possible safety complications

No better explanation than FIA's: https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... r%2044.pdf

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