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Author:  Neil [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Things that have killed F1 in the past

Thanks to @
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gkmotorsport
for the idea.

Grooved tyres
Narrow track cars
The plank
Turbos
Getting rid of turbos
Turbos again
DRS
Max Mosely
Jean-Marie Balestre
Jean Todt

Author:  Coldtyre [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Things that have killed F1 in the past

The four tyres.

You only need two tyres to race an engine efficiently around a racetrack, the two others are redundant.

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Author:  amq55 [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Things that have killed F1 in the past

Refuelling
Michael Schumacher (and/or Ferrari)
Hermann Tilke
Bernie Ecclestone
James Allen
Over complicated steering wheels

Author:  kals [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:44 pm ]
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Fans that have an entitlement complex

Author:  Ian-S [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:09 pm ]
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Fans that think other fans have an entitlement complex :)

Author:  kals [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:08 pm ]
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Ian-S wrote:
Fans that think other fans have an entitlement complex :)


Touchee :lol:

Author:  iks [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:36 pm ]
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Max Mosley
Toto Wolff

Author:  Omega [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:32 pm ]
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computers calculating the best strategy

Author:  kals [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:27 pm ]
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Standardization of core aspects... i.e. single type of engine configuration, single tyre supplier, etc...

The concept of increased component lifespan in the name of cost reduction.

Author:  Gabriel [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:38 pm ]
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Taki Inoue

Author:  kals [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:43 pm ]
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Gabriel wrote:
Taki Inoue


Pretty sure F1 tried to kill him... twice.

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Author:  Gabriel [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:53 pm ]
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Exactly. I should've said "the lack of...", because in F1, nothing will ever top those two moments. It has been just a stream of disappointments, since those incidents.

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:57 pm ]
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Engines that last 4 races or more

(although Honda is trying to save F1 from that)

Cars in the lead not breaking down

Author:  Cheeveer [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:57 pm ]
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engines in the rear

Author:  gkmotorsport [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:05 pm ]
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Open wheels :beard:

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Author:  RtN [ Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:14 pm ]
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The entire 1998 rulebook.

Author:  kals [ Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:07 am ]
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RtN wrote:
The entire 1998 rulebook.


Great point. A lot of the DNA of the current day issues with F1 can be traced back to these rules.

Author:  Philthy82 [ Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Things that have killed F1 in the past

Full faced helmets - F1 fans won't tolerate anything that obscures visibility of the driver
Seatbelts - Anything that slows a driver's exit from their car is just asking for fatalities
The FIA not using any of the great ideas we have at TBK

Author:  codename_47 [ Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:11 am ]
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Ground effect being banned

Turbos being banned

Traction Control, Launch Control, Grooved tyres, Refueling and the shitshow that was the first decade of the 2000s

Single car qualifying

Tarmac Runoffs

The 2017 increase in downforce levels

Not racing exclusively in the wet

Purism, or the notion that doing anything to increase the entertainment levels of the races is "not what Formula 1 is about"

Author:  Soul Reaver [ Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:54 am ]
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Ugly boring Mercedes farting sounding dominating a slowly boring crawling 3 straight seasons. F1 died a lot when 2014 started, and even more the following years of that facepalm torturous tragedy of an era.

Also, Oh wait, new car paintings!!!! - black, grey, white and grey, grey and black.


Over-complicated wheels and engineers that have more power than drivers.


Safety-car rain parades. At least now standing starts always.

Road-courses full of run-off areas. Oh, so much hipe for Valencia and Abu-dhabi on paper. Oh, so much disappointment. At least we have Baku and Singapore now.

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