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Author:  Fabs [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:31 pm ]
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But do they teams really care about what's going on in Bahrain ?

It could set a precedent for "events" happening in other hosting countries.

Author:  Mattzel89 [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:34 pm ]
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Austin GP progress, taken yesterday
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Author:  Gaara [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:38 pm ]
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Fabs wrote:
But do they teams really care about what's going on in Bahrain ?



They certainly care about their safety.

Author:  micha [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:39 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
Nah, now the teams can claim it's not legal by the rules, so nobody but the FIA is to blame. The teams haven't said they don't want Bahrain, they've just said they don't want the calender changed. Smart move by the teams because now they get rid of Bahrain without directly insulting the country, and it gets the Indian GP back in place.

Well played by Bernie and the teams. Still a poor show by the FIA to vote it in in the first place.



But the FIA will keep pointing their finger at the teams.
Surely they must have known the teams could block the move??

Author:  ellis [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:40 pm ]
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Fabs wrote:
But do they teams really care about what's going on in Bahrain ?

It could set a precedent for "events" happening in other hosting countries.


Yes they care because it directly compromises their safety. People can pretend it's not near the circuit if they want, but during the last test days there, GP2 and Pirelli staff were uncomfortable, and some GP2 and Porsche drivers posted images of the tanks and protesters.

Author:  Gaara [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:41 pm ]
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micha wrote:
ellis wrote:
Nah, now the teams can claim it's not legal by the rules, so nobody but the FIA is to blame. The teams haven't said they don't want Bahrain, they've just said they don't want the calender changed. Smart move by the teams because now they get rid of Bahrain without directly insulting the country, and it gets the Indian GP back in place.

Well played by Bernie and the teams. Still a poor show by the FIA to vote it in in the first place.



But the FIA will keep pointing their finger at the teams.
Surely they must have known the teams could block the move??



Most likely it was the whole point. To get Bahrain to be mad at the teams rather then themselves.

Todt's presidency is a failure.

Author:  Fabs [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:43 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
Fabs wrote:
But do they teams really care about what's going on in Bahrain ?

It could set a precedent for "events" happening in other hosting countries.


Yes they care because it directly compromises their safety. People can pretend it's not near the circuit if they want, but during the last test days there, GP2 and Pirelli staff were uncomfortable, and some GP2 and Porsche drivers posted images of the tanks and protesters.

Honestly, I don't think the situation will be like that in 5 months time.

Author:  phil1993 [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:54 pm ]
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Fabs wrote:
Honestly, I don't think the situation will be like that in 5 months time.


You can be TBK's representative in Bahrain.

Because its been 4 months since it kicked off there and nothing much has changed.

And if I were sponsors/fans/teams, I'd be royally pissed off if all the plans regarding India had to change. Millions of pounds will be lost.

Author:  Fabs [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:57 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
Fabs wrote:
Honestly, I don't think the situation will be like that in 5 months time.


You can be TBK's representative in Bahrain.

Because its been 4 months since it kicked off there and nothing much has changed.

Hmm I haven't followed the news about Bahrain lately, is it still that bad ?

Author:  Gabriel [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:59 pm ]
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Charlie Whiting was in Mexico City today having a look at the GP circuit.

He claims that the track is in great condition and just short on a few safety improvements. I think Mexico will be back in the calendar in a few seasons, having Perez and Gutierrez involved with a F1 team and with all that Telmex money.

Author:  phil1993 [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:01 pm ]
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Gabriel wrote:
Charlie Whiting was in Mexico City today having a look at the GP circuit.

He claims that the track is in great condition and just short on a few safety improvements. I think Mexico will be back in the calendar in a few seasons, having Perez and Gutierrez involved with a F1 team and with all that Telmex money.


'A few safety changes' = Take away the final corner which was bloody brilliant.

And @
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, yes it is still pretty bad but because the Crown Prince lifted the state of emergency, everything is fine according to him. Don't worry about those pesky civilians accidentally falling onto bullets.

Author:  ellis [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:03 pm ]
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Fabs wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
Fabs wrote:
Honestly, I don't think the situation will be like that in 5 months time.


You can be TBK's representative in Bahrain.

Because its been 4 months since it kicked off there and nothing much has changed.

Hmm I haven't followed the news about Bahrain lately, is it still that bad ?


Other than the Bahrain Government officially changing the state of the country to non-emergancy (purely so they can host the GP), nothing has changed. A protester was still killed the day before the FIA visit, and doctors and nurses who gave medical aid to injured protesters are being prosecuted.

Author:  Fabs [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:00 pm ]
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Good job Bahrain :tumble:

Author:  Gaara [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:47 pm ]
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Not only being prosecuted, but tortured as well.

Author:  gd49 [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:33 pm ]
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ellis wrote:

Well played by Bernie and the teams. Still a poor show by the FIA to vote it in in the first place.


Indeed, massive load of negative publicity for F1 when everyone thought the Bahrain race would happen.

Author:  phil1993 [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:58 pm ]
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QPR's shirt sponsors Gulf Air will not be their shirt sponsors next season, after 3 seasons. Gulf Air is Bahraini and Bernie owns 60% of QPR I think. A tad coincidental?

Author:  Bleu [ Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:24 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
QPR's shirt sponsors Gulf Air will not be their shirt sponsors next season, after 3 seasons. Gulf Air is Bahraini and Bernie owns 60% of QPR I think. A tad coincidental?


Especially taking account that they got promoted to Premier League so sponsor (whoever it is) will have much more visibility next year.

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:49 am ]
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more problems with funding at Austin

http://blogs.bettor.com/Lawyer-of-US-Gr ... ews-a74370

Quote:
Lawyer of US Grand Prix Richard Suttle has said that the organisers admit the Austin City Council has the power to scrap the event if they want.

“There is a distinct possibility that if this process doesn't work, that the project and the 1000 people that are working right now, their jobs could be in jeopardy and the event could be in jeopardy,” Suttle said.

The event is expected to take place in July 2012 according to the official report released by the organisers of the sport but it seems that due to some financial concerns, the event might be in jeopardy.

According to some reports, it has been revealed that the council members recently came to know that they must approve the $25 million funds which will be used by the organisers of the venue. Following their approval, the Texan government will then provide the funds to the organisers.

This is going to involve the City of Austin as they are going to contribute $4 million to the Major Events Trust Fund.

“Apparently there is no plan B. I think that is an interesting assumption to make that something like that is going to be approved,” said one of the members of the Austin City Council.

The first $4 million will be paid by the organisers of the sport themselves which will be later funded by the tourist activities visiting the place in future.

The organisers of the race took this huge gamble as the approval of the plan is in the hands of the council completely.

“We are hoping that it's not just a bet, it's a confidence in our city that they will realise what a benefit this will be for our community and our region,” said Suttle.

The mayor of Austin Lee Leffingwell also admitted that this was a huge risk for the organisers since the decision is in the hands of the council and if they decide to disapprove the event, then the property of the Austin, Texas track will be used for some other purpose.

Author:  Hank Hill [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:52 am ]
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I think they can get it through City Council...I dunno about the state government and Governor Rick Perry. With Perry it really depends on how much money lobbying money goes to his campaign. Generally how things work with him.

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:13 am ]
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There are conflicting stories saying its 4mil and others say 25mil

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