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| Author: | alex1369 [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Driver of the Race - Germany |
My man who else - fantastic moves |
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| Author: | Slam [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Driver of the Race - Germany |
Frickin' Hamilton. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rate the 2011 German Grand Prix |
aerogi wrote: I'm somewhat amazed it got much better points compared to the British Grand Prix. I wonder if it has to do with Alonso winning compared to Lewis? First 15-20 laps were great though. I don't see that, a lot of people rated the British GP higher than this one, it's just overall there were less votes. British GP had the advantage of coming right after Valencia though so it would've looked like the best race in the universe compared to that. |
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| Author: | aerogi [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rate the 2011 German Grand Prix |
codename_47 wrote: aerogi wrote: I'm somewhat amazed it got much better points compared to the British Grand Prix. I wonder if it has to do with Alonso winning compared to Lewis? First 15-20 laps were great though. I don't see that, a lot of people rated the British GP higher than this one, it's just overall there were less votes. British GP had the advantage of coming right after Valencia though so it would've looked like the best race in the universe compared to that. the british Grand Prix had nearly 40% votes 7 or lower whereas the German has only 24% votings of 7 or lower. So with your statement, with the British race coming up after Valencia, it should have been the other way round. So a lot more people (in percentage) voted 'less' for the British race compared to the German race, and although the first 15-18 laps were really great, I think the British race as a whole was better, including the final lap fights. and it started with a wet track. To me that this a real surprise, and I can't explain as to why. |
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| Author: | Artur Craft [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Driver of the Race - Germany |
Zutil |
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| Author: | Rudy88 [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rate the 2011 German Grand Prix |
9 points, so awesome to see all those overtaking manouvers right in front of me at the turn 1 grandstand. |
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| Author: | Regiotap [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
coldtyre wrote: If the wrong mirror doesn't show any car, it means there's a solid chance they're on the other side. That can't be an excuse to keep moving blindly towards the edge of the circuit and just hope for the best. I totally agree. But why does Buemi got a 5-grid penalty, and Button got away with it? I think Buemi and Button made the same mistake. |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
Because perhaps Button had severe visibility issues due to the wet track causing a cloud of spray behind him? |
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| Author: | Slam [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
Here's a question: Why is it ok to drive someone off the road on the exit of corners (e.g. Hamilton vs Webber at T2), but not on the entrance to corners (e.g. Buemi vs Heidfeld)? |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
Hamilton didn't drive into Webber and was aware of Webber's position throughout the move. Mark took to the run off knowing he was being squeezed. He could have hung on around the outside but knew the danger of collision. Whereas Buemi was negligent to Heidfeld's position on the race track. Two completely different scenarios. |
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| Author: | cookie [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rate the 2011 German Grand Prix |
aerogi wrote: the british Grand Prix had nearly 40% votes 7 or lower whereas the German has only 24% votings of 7 or lower. So with your statement, with the British race coming up after Valencia, it should have been the other way round. So a lot more people (in percentage) voted 'less' for the British race compared to the German race, and although the first 15-18 laps were really great, I think the British race as a whole was better, including the final lap fights. and it started with a wet track. To me that this a real surprise, and I can't explain as to why. Maybe because of the team order at the end of the race and the big margin Alonso had over second place? I enjoyed both races, so I gave them the same amount of points. Winner doesn't matter to me, even if Vettel had won yesterday I would have voted 8 because of the close battle at the front. |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Driver of the Race - Germany |
Hamilton, with Sutil in second |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
kals wrote: Because perhaps Button had severe visibility issues due to the wet track causing a cloud of spray behind him? Plus Heidfeld was much further alongside. |
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| Author: | De Cesaris fan [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
I still think Button was more to blame for the Montreal incident. Spray was minimal and you could see him having a good look in the mirrors. But I totally agree with the penalty for Buemi. You can expect to be squeezed off on the outside of the corner, but not on a straight or in a braking zone. |
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| Author: | Slam [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
kals wrote: Hamilton didn't drive into Webber and was aware of Webber's position throughout the move. Mark took to the run off knowing he was being squeezed. He could have hung on around the outside but knew the danger of collision. Whereas Buemi was negligent to Heidfeld's position on the race track. Two completely different scenarios. Yeah I suppose I was playing devil's advocate to a degree. But I do find it a bit strange that its generally accepted that if two cars are side by side exiting a corner, the guy on the inside is perfectly within his right to force the guy on the outside off the track. Should Hamilton have left a car width? |
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| Author: | kals [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
Hamilton left as much as he needed to. From Webber's onboard view you can see that he never went fully off course. [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sjMyXGBaGU[/youtubeidiot] |
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| Author: | De Cesaris fan [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rate the 2011 German Grand Prix |
Britain was good but I don't see how it was any better than this race? Alonso ran away at the front. We had side by side racing for the lead in Germany, and it wasn't clear who was going to win until after the final stops. There was still the question of whether Alonso on old softs would be able to go faster than Lewis on the hard tyres. I enjoyed Silverstone but thought this was far better. |
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| Author: | Omega [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rate the 2011 German Grand Prix |
we really have the new rules to thank that a dry race is rated better than a rain-affected one. For the first time in years I'm not sad because I tune in and see a dry gridwalk. |
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| Author: | schumifan69 [ Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rate the 2011 German Grand Prix |
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| Author: | bmwpower86 [ Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2011 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
Gaara wrote: Hmm, phantom yellow again i think that yellow flag came out for me 
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