2013 Random F1 Discussion

noikeee · PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:57 pm

The teams will have mega computing power connected to the simulator, I'm not sure the physics engine takes advantage of that but it seems logical it will - if that's the case then you couldn't run it in your PC at home as it won't be able to calculate the physics in real time.

RtN · PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:27 pm

kals wrote:

RtN wrote:

kals wrote:

Monte is correct. The amount of $$ that goes into these facilities is substantial and this (along with the windtunnel) is the foundation of development. If testing is banned in an attempt to reduce costs, then so should these simulators.

Except he doesn't want them both to be banned, he wants his advantage back through unlimited testing, the same way he wanted his advantages back through 3 car teams and restricting aero development.

I almost want him to get his way because Red Bull will outspend him 3 to 1 and grind him into the dirt.

Oh I agree with you RtN, it is me saying both should be banned (both cost as much as each other, just different types of cost). Monte's logic about cost containment is true though, perhaps simulators should be banned and on-track testing be opened up again?

It might end up being cheaper for the teams that don't have 24/7 access to a racetrack, and so have to plan tests well in advance.

Ferrari, with 24/7 access to a racetrack, would end up spending more on testing than they are on the simulator.

Which is the whole point from Ferrari's perspective.

webbsy · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:31 am

So for testing have the teams ever lobbied the FIA to subsidize group sanctioned tests? For example have 4 in season tests and the FIA gives the teams $100,000 for each test to help off set some of the costs. In order to get the money the teams have to actually turn up and test. Seems pretty easy to me.

ellis · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:34 am

If Red Bull moved the factory to the Red Bull Ring you could bet the first team to moan would be Ferrari.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:19 pm

ellis wrote:

If Red Bull moved the factory to the Red Bull Ring you could bet the first team to moan would be Ferrari.

Red Bull could just use the Milton Keynes ring road.

RtN · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:42 pm

In all honesty, if Montezemelo gets his way then I expect Red Bull to buy Bedford Autodrome from Palmer.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:00 pm

McLaren would be able to use Dunsfold I guess.

kals · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:22 pm

phil1993 wrote:

ellis wrote:

If Red Bull moved the factory to the Red Bull Ring you could bet the first team to moan would be Ferrari.

Red Bull could just use the Milton Keynes ring road.

Can't see that happening. The roads are already clogged up with wannabe racers in Citroen Saxos and Seat Leons.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:22 pm

So, it's happened...
[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pmmBIqpnmk&feature=youtu.be[/youtubeidiot]

codename_47 · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:31 pm

RtN wrote:

In all honesty, if Montezemelo gets his way then I expect Red Bull to buy Bedford Autodrome from Palmer.

And yet a lot of people in the mid-late 90s said Ferrari's reliance solely on their test track was the exact reason they were underachieving because it didn't have that much relevance to the F1 calender at the time.

But I dunno how much they've upgraded it since then tbh

kals · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:43 pm

Well they tested there 24x7x365 in the late-90's through to the testing ban in the 2000's and that did them a lot of good.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:52 pm

kals wrote:

24x7x365

Wöow. Their budget even allowed them to expand the number of weeks there was in a year!

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:53 pm

If Vettel raced in 90's at Ferrari you guys would never heard of Michael Schumacher

of course that's simply bollocks

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:58 pm

If Michael Schumacher had been named "Sebastian Vettel" we would never had heard of Michael Schumacher.

kals · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:58 pm

dicksplaash wrote:

kals wrote:

24x7x365

Wöow. Their budget even allowed them to expand the number of weeks there was in a year!

24 hours a day
7 days a week
365 days a year

Not sure where the confusion is?

codename_47 · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:18 pm

kals wrote:

dicksplaash wrote:

kals wrote:

24x7x365

Wöow. Their budget even allowed them to expand the number of weeks there was in a year!

24 hours a day
7 days a week
365 days a year

Not sure where the confusion is?

It's the x Kals, you're implying that they tested 7x365 instead of 7x52 weeksin the year

phil1993 · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:20 pm

Oh God we need F1 back.

kals · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:25 pm

codename_47 wrote:

kals wrote:

dicksplaash wrote:

Wöow. Their budget even allowed them to expand the number of weeks there was in a year!

24 hours a day
7 days a week
365 days a year

Not sure where the confusion is?

It's the x Kals, you're implying that they tested 7x365 instead of 7x52 weeksin the year

24x7x365 is an incredibly common term. 24x7x52 isn't. I'm stumped with the fact that people are being pedantic on minor things.

Argh!!! We do need F1 back.

Gaara · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:27 pm

Not just F1, any bloody form of Motorsport!

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:40 pm

just one more week for dakar

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