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Author:  StefMeister [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:47 pm ]
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Karthikeyan had a Front/Left suspension failure according to HRT.

Author:  kals [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:58 pm ]
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I think that was fairly easy to see on the TV.

Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:04 pm ]
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Image

Author:  Artur Craft [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:12 pm ]
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Tobias, have you found out what caused the abortion of the start? was it simply a temp failure in the light's system?

Author:  Stoegi [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:15 pm ]
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Artur Craft wrote:
Tobias, have you found out what caused the abortion of the start? was it simply a temp failure in the light's system?

I thought it was actually due to Schumacher stalling and Charley Whiting reacting to it.

Author:  EAS [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:17 pm ]
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Stoegi wrote:
Artur Craft wrote:
Tobias, have you found out what caused the abortion of the start? was it simply a temp failure in the light's system?

I thought it was actually due to Schumacher stalling and Charley Whiting reacting to it.


Schumacher did stall after the abortion of the start.

Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:20 pm ]
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I haven't found out yet, no.
People often say "go with your first thought", and I think Charlie might have f*cked up pressing the wrong button quite frankly.

Author:  Artur Craft [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:21 pm ]
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Stoegi wrote:
Artur Craft wrote:
Tobias, have you found out what caused the abortion of the start? was it simply a temp failure in the light's system?

I thought it was actually due to Schumacher stalling and Charley Whiting reacting to it.


yeah, as far as I heard, Schumacher's turning off his engine was a consequence of the abortion, and not the other way around.

Author:  Regiotap [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:25 pm ]
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Great strategy for Button. Looked like the old McLaren days were they destroyed every race for Alonso with a bad strategy.

Author:  Echti [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:35 pm ]
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The reason for Michael Schumacher entering the pits just one lap after the actual race start was a puncture apparently.

Author:  kals [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:08 pm ]
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As Artur Craft posted above Schumacher turned off his own engine after the start was aborted. That confirms he wasn't the reason for the aborted start.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101624

Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:15 pm ]
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but what was? I noticed there was quite a time interval between the last car lining up and the sign for another formation lap being given.

I truly think Charlie f*cked up, especially because you could see him gesticulating quite nervously.

Author:  Fish88 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:17 pm ]
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Tobias wrote:
I truly think Charlie f*cked up, especially because you could see him gesticulating quite nervously.


Yeah had the same feeling TBH.

Author:  kals [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:17 pm ]
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However. This article actually states that Schumacher DID in fact cause the aborted start. Not because of switching off his engine but for being out of position...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101635

Author:  alex1369 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:25 pm ]
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I dont understand the penalty for Pastor, the FIA is retarded. Di resta went wide and let the door full opened for Pastor and he muscled trough, Pauls own fault why he didnt clost the door i mean WTF!!!!! I dont get it why penalty its getting worse and worse with the stupid penalties, everything is ok for me, "Pastor caused collision" i mean f... you fia stewards just f... you. May the man burn in hell who makes this stupid decisions. Cant you see he is destroying the racing, if this is racing, at all????

Author:  kals [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:26 pm ]
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Hmmm angry much?

Author:  Mattzel89 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:27 pm ]
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I'm pretty sure anyone else would have gotten away with it, but since Pastor keeps driving into other people every race the penalty is ok IMO

Author:  EAS [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:30 pm ]
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At first I thought it was a harsh penalty. And looking to the incident itself, I still think it's harsh. But it came from a driver with a previous historic of incidents. So, I feel the penalty is valid to try to chill Maldonado a bit. Any penalty should be, at first, a way to discourage an unacceptable behavior than just a punishment itself.

Author:  Echti [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:33 pm ]
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Paul did everything fine there with Maldonado, he gave him enough space and didn't shut the door. Pastor however pretty much oversteered and rammed Paul off the road. Similar to what he did at Silverstone with Perez. The incident itself wasn't such a biggie, but Maldonado constantly drives into othe people out there, no wonder why he instantly receives a penalty. Which is - in my view - more than well deserved.

Author:  alex1369 [ Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:33 pm ]
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kals wrote:
Hmmm angry much?



No not angry, happy my man won, but i think its not fair with the penalty. Its even worse then on f1 videogame. To me pass was ok. Why they didnt the give a penalty to Piquet when he passed Trulli in Canada 2008, he rammed him a bit... and nothing. He passed, but today OMG, every little conatct... Then put bumpers like on go karts around cars.

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