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| Author: | ryan86 [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
I can even remember where I was during the 1997 race, Barras market in Glasgow. |
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| Author: | ellis [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
ryan86 wrote: I can even remember where I was during the 1997 race, Barras market in Glasgow. I was in England in a pub. |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
There's certain races that I can remember exactly where I watched or I was that day. 1994 Adelaide - Edinburgh Airport 1995 Nurburgring - Comet in a retail park in Dunfermline 1996 Brazil - Flat in Leith 1997 Silverstone - Black and white TV as we had just moved house 1997 Hungary - Coupar Angus visiting my Aunt Every Canadian and Brazilian GP would be watched at my mum's father's parents from 1997 onwards. Except if it clashed with Last of the Summer Wine. That continued till 2003, until they had both passed away. |
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| Author: | bigears [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | 2012 Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander von Deutschland |
ellis wrote: ryan86 wrote: I can even remember where I was during the 1997 race, Barras market in Glasgow. I was in England in a pub. Underage? Tut tut! You must have been necking down a wee dram of whisky! :P |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:16 am ] |
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F1 Standings as it was if we were in the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 system... Drivers Championship 01 – Fernando ALONSO – 40 Pts 02 – Mark WEBBER – 35 Pts 03 – Sebastian VETTEL – 29 Pts 04 – Lewis HAMILTON – 24 Pts 05 – Nico ROSBERG – 20 Pts 06 – Kimi RAIKKONEN – 20 Pts 07 – Jenson BUTTON – 16 Pts 08 – Romain GROSJEAN – 15 Pts 09 – Pastor MALDONADO – 10 Pts 10 – Sergio PEREZ – 10 Pts 11 – Michael SCHUMACHER – 04 Pts 12 – Felipe MASSA – 04 Pts 13 – Kamui KOBAYASHI – 03 Pts 14 – Nico HULKENBERG – 02 Pts 15 – Paul DI RESTA – 01 Pt 16 – Bruno SENNA – 01 Pt Constructors Championship 01 – Red Bull – 64 Pts 02 – Ferrari – 44 Pts 03 – McLaren – 40 Pts 04 – Lotus – 35 Pts 05 – Mercedes – 24 Pts 06 – Sauber – 13 Pts 07 – Williams – 10 Pts 08 – Force India – 03 Pts |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:29 am ] |
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People get so mad about the 2010 team orders thing because it was literally the only thing that happened that race. The race was so dull the director had to focus on the team order situation and shots of the crowd booing as there was bugger all else happening that day. I'd rather people protested the boring race than the team orders, however bitter a taste they left. ryan86 wrote: There's certain races that I can remember exactly where I watched or I was that day. 1994 Adelaide - Edinburgh Airport 1995 Nurburgring - Comet in a retail park in Dunfermline 1996 Brazil - Flat in Leith 1997 Silverstone - Black and white TV as we had just moved house 1997 Hungary - Coupar Angus visiting my Aunt Every Canadian and Brazilian GP would be watched at my mum's father's parents from 1997 onwards. Except if it clashed with Last of the Summer Wine. That continued till 2003, until they had both passed away. Most races I can say "At home, in front of a TV" except for Hungary 2000 (at a wedding, didn't miss much!) and Bahrain 2008 (In a pub in Cyprus, found out there were Spanish people in there too when Hamilton and Alonso collided! The pub also showed all the support races too, including that NASCAR F1 support with old F1 drivers, the only time I ever saw that ) |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:06 am ] |
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I think Alonso's total is the lowest after 9 races since 1984 which surprised me slightly, but looking at it, McLaren only really dominated the second half of the season. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:27 am ] |
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ryan86 wrote: I think Alonso's total is the lowest after 9 races since 1984 which surprised me slightly, but looking at it, McLaren only really dominated the second half of the season. Just like Red Bull are about to do, in all likelyhood. Track suits the car: Rape the field (Valencia-ok technical failure, but you knew how it was going to end) Track doesn't suit the car, use good strategy to beat everyone (Monaco, Silverstone) Can't see much else phasing them tbh. |
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| Author: | kals [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:35 am ] |
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ryan86 wrote: I think Alonso's total is the lowest after 9 races since 1984 which surprised me slightly That is surprising. I always thought 1999 was the lowest. I think the championship leader had only 40 points after 7 races. |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:46 am ] |
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Hakkinen had 44 points after 9 races in 1999. |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:43 pm ] |
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Pirelli will take the new tires to be tested at Hockenheim's friday practice, hope the weather helps the teams to finally test the new tires, will be nice to have an idea of how they will behave. |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:52 pm ] |
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codename_47 wrote: ryan86 wrote: I think Alonso's total is the lowest after 9 races since 1984 which surprised me slightly, but looking at it, McLaren only really dominated the second half of the season. Just like Red Bull are about to do, in all likelyhood. Track suits the car: Rape the field (Valencia-ok technical failure, but you knew how it was going to end) Track doesn't suit the car, use good strategy to beat everyone (Monaco, Silverstone) Can't see much else phasing them tbh. Red Bull improved a lot, but I don't see them dominating the second half of the season so easily. McLaren will certainly fight back, Ferrari has improved, which was proven by Massa's performance at Silverstone and there's still Mercedes and Lotus that can surprise in some tracks. Actually in the next 4 races, in 3 of them Mercedes will be strong, Hockenheim, Spa and Monza and I believe Lotus and specially Kimi will be very strong at Spa, Kimi knows the track very well. If we think better, Hamilton could be leading the championship, but McLaren has done some really stupid mistakes with him during all the season, many wrong pitstops, wrong fuel calculation, those are the kind of mistakes a team like McLaren should never make. But looking at the last races I can understand your point of view, Red Bull is for sure the best car at the moment, but the fight between Vettel and Webber may give a chance to Alonso and Hamilton. I'm actually very happy to see Webber performing so well after the poor performance in the last season, I like him, would be nice if the championship would go to his hands. Let's see, Hockenheim weekend will be great, can't wait for it! |
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| Author: | Ellu [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:08 pm ] |
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ryan86 wrote: I might come across as a greenie here, but I'm going to disagree. Sometimes when areas fall into urban decay etc, we just let them sit there and do nothing. If we no longer have any use for it, give it back to nature. Nature will take it back itself, watch the grass and trees growing trough the concrete at Monza 
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| Author: | Cheeveer [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:06 pm ] |
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2003 was memorable for me. You know, when Montoya absolutey blitzed the field (last time someone won with over a minute?), and that spectacular Trulli train. Trulli took his first podium there actually, but was so exhausted after the race, that I don't think he made the podium! |
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| Author: | Tobias [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:33 pm ] |
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2003 was, for me too, the best race around this track. Remember the way how Ralf Schumacher caused havoc at the start. |
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| Author: | kals [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:34 pm ] |
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dicksplaash wrote: Trulli took his first podium there actually I thought his first podium was Nurburgring 1999? |
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| Author: | Omega [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:02 pm ] |
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ellis wrote: ryan86 wrote: I can even remember where I was during the 1997 race, Barras market in Glasgow. I was in England in a pub. I was on family weekend at the beach and had to do some stupid walk with the parents instead of watching the GP. Luckily I had taped it. |
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| Author: | Ellu [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:03 pm ] |
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I remember Zsolt Baumgartner's first official F1 appearance as a 3rd driver on Friday in 2003 but I guess that memory is useless… 
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| Author: | Fabs [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:11 pm ] |
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The weather is difficult to predict at the moment, will have to wait until the weekend. |
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| Author: | Cheeveer [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:40 pm ] |
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kals wrote: dicksplaash wrote: Trulli took his first podium there actually I thought his first podium was Nurburgring 1999? You are right. First podium with Renault it should be then. And under normal circumstances. Anyway, that was probably the greatest Trulli train ever! |
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