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Most of the overtaking this year has happened in the first 5 laps. In fact they're usually awesome before the race peters out afterwards.

More safety cars would help this immensely, giving us overtaking on restarts, some of which will hopefully cause another safety car, etc etc.

or some random NASCAR like "Debris" cautions

Autosport did a piece on the changes to the 2010 cars and Gary Anderson said he thinks next year's car will be even more nervous in traffic so overtaking will be harder.

Fuck me, that's not even possible is it?

This year has been highly disappointing in my opinion, so that prospect is really dreary.

There's no how to blame only one thing for not having overtakes in F1, as many already said, it's a set of things. FIA made the wrong choices about circuit layouts in the name of "safety" or "green solutions" throughout these years. I liked the aero package and I think it worked well, the problem are the tracks used, sometimes drivers who also are afraid to reach the limit, the efficient brakes aswell. It's not a localized problem, but a set of problems that were accumulating during the last 15 years due to bad administration, little sense of sportsmanship by Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone. Who would let the F1 teams get that level of aerodynamic helps gained before 2009? And before 2007, it was still used traction control...how do you want to know If drivers are good If you have traction control? You see, all these options were all wrong and could have been avoided. Fortunately, it look like things are tending to get better from this year onward. Who watched F1 from 2000-2004 know that situation was much worst and darker.

The tracks are absolutely fine for passing. It's the cars.

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Except Hungaroring. Blow it up.

Ah, now, even the Hungaroring might hold decent races if the cars were fixed.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Yeaa, I'd like to have seen what the old A1GP cars would have done around there.

Races at Pergusa, Avus and Dega. EXCELLENT!

Don't underestimate the intelligence of FIA/FOM/FOTA boys. They had already had much worse ideas:

- 1989: Bernie Ecclestone, bothered with McLaren's party in previous year, had suggested that if a driver wins a race, he should be obligated to stop once for changing the tyres. If he then repeats the victory, for the next race he should be obligated to do this twice. If he wins again, three stops in the next race. And again and again until the moment another driver wins. And it starts again with the other driver.

- 1993: it was the first years Safety Car was being used on races. FISA suggested that in case of a driver leading the race with a gap higher than 12 seconds, SC would be brought to the track to gather all the drivers and release them in a row with little difference between the drivers.

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That should be mandatory now.

Knowing the FIA they'd completely fuck it up and pick up the wrong car, giving the leader a lap on the field.

Or WTCC style, get the safety car to do a Burnout; Takedown on the race leader.

Given the fact that they never listen to the audience, I'm sure the FIA doesn't know half of how unpopular they are.

Your joking right?
I never heard of that suggestion by FISA are you making this up?

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The problems turbulent air causes for the car behind can be reduced but whatever the OWG try, the engineers always seem to recover peformance lost by taking away downforce and leaving it back at square one.

The best solution would be removing the DDD because at Albert Park and Sepang, the cars followed each other quite well and were able to overtake until all teams had it.

I checked Brian Lawrence's stats from first two races. Rosberg and Glock were overtaken on the restart lap at Melbourne. (IIRC Rosberg was bit affected by Piquet's spin, while two drivers that overtook Glock had KERS). Later Rosberg lots mass of places due to his tyre problems.

In Sepang Vettel and Alonso passed Nakajima while Barrichello overtook Trulli. All three were after the rain had arrived.

There are the passes that were made against DDD cars in those two races.

I actually found that the FIA does listen to the appeal in some ways. For instance, the multiple times they changed the qualifying system in last few years, or their TV coverage, or the refueling ban from next year on, and etc. Although these changes might not have actually come directly from the fans, those were the most popular talks at the time before the rule change and possibly had its influence over the decision making. I was sometimes surprised at how the new rules decreed by the FIA coincided with the general complaints. You might argue that some changes were absurd, but that's another story.