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Author:  Tobias [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:09 pm ]
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that's a fair point.

Author:  RtN [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:24 pm ]
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HRT now entering F1 Reject territory;

Quote:
Formtech Composites Ltd. is a design, engineering and manufacturing company of high-end carbon solutions and products located in Milton Park, Abingdon, Oxfordshire.
Major customers are Formula 1 racing teams like:
• Force India F1
• Marussia F1
• Lotus Renault F1
• Caterham F1
• McLaren F1
• Hispania Racing Team F1 (HRT).

Other customers are automotive companies and /or suppliers to automotive companies, suppliers to the military sector and to minor extent to the aerospace industry.
In the last F1 season Formtech Composites sold a reasonable amount of money to the Spanish team HRT and it has come to our knowledge that they owe a substantial amount of money to other suppliers in the motorsports industry.

HRT decided by mid of November 2012 to stop the F1 Racing activity. Formtech Composites is one of their suppliers, who support them until the last race in Brasil. By 15th November a payment plan for all open invoices was jointly settled between HRT and Formtech Composites and 25% of the amount was paid according to the plan – leaving still substantial amount unpaid. One week later HRT changed the responsibility of their people involved in the case and stated the following:

• Liquidation procedures started on 12th November 2012 (so before payment plan was agreed).
• They are no longer in a position to pay 100% of the outstanding invoices
• The new offer is to pay 30p for every Euro owed across their entire creditor list, with no room
for negotiation.
• The owner of the HRT F1 is a Luxembourgian Fund (misleading Formtech Composites Ltd on the
possibilities of finding a viable way to chase the debt further).

According to Formtech Composites Ltd‘s knowledge, the owner of HRT (which was formerly owned by Campos Meta 1 SL) is to 100% Thesan Capital SL and no Luxembourgian Fund.
Formtech Composites doesn’t accept this misleading information tactics. Formtech Composites is going to investigate further into the true shareholder ship of HRT and Thesan Capital SL.

Any support from the press is highly appreciated in order to keep business standards to a civilized level within the motorsports industry.

Author:  StanV [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:58 pm ]
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hahaha, what a surprise

Author:  AxisVonOversteer [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:14 pm ]
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kals wrote:
Hmmm... Flavio complaining about underhand tactics....

Let's see his track record shall we?

1994 - Option 13 aka Traction Control
1994 - Removal of fuel filter from the Intertechnique system
2008 - Singapore and Piquet

I'm sure I'm missing a few more so I'll fill out the blanks as I remember them.


Well, he's very qualified to comment :lol:

Author:  kals [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:16 pm ]
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Any chance of a new poll?

Author:  AxisVonOversteer [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:22 pm ]
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[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztYifwQK7iA[/youtubeidiot]

Author:  Gaara [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:27 pm ]
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kals wrote:
Any chance of a new poll?


Like what?

Author:  matthew [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:27 pm ]
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Lewis was in Malta today with his McLaren, taking part in a charity campaign.

We suspect this was the last time he drove a McLaren. He seemed quite emotional when he stepped out! Unfortunately due to typical Maltese ignorance expressed by the general public I was unable to capture a lot of photos even if I was press. I did spot some Sky Sports guys over there so hopefully they will do something about it. If any of you spot something on it, I would appreciate if you can let me know!

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Author:  Fish88 [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:29 pm ]
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Thx, I thought he was already allowed to talk with the people at Mercedes (and probably discuss technical information), so weird to see him back in last years car.

Author:  EAS [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:34 pm ]
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I wonder what a TAM airplane was doing in Malta. :o

Author:  matthew [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:35 pm ]
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He was hugging the team when he got out and from pics I've seen (cannot reproduce here as I don't have permission) which I don't think is something "normal" after a demo run heh.

I think he is allowed to talk to Merc guys but nothing more than that atm.

Author:  matthew [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:37 pm ]
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EAS wrote:
I wonder what a TAM airplane was doing in Malta. :o


They come here for maintenance at Lufthansa Technik Malta. I believe that's in storage as it's been here a while.

Author:  kals [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:16 am ]
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Gaara wrote:
kals wrote:
Any chance of a new poll?


Like what?


Anything from what it is now. That poll has been up there the lions share of this year. Perhaps close off the year with something like.... "Has Lewis made a mistake by leaving McLaren for Mercedes" or "Will Fernando ever get his Championship for Ferrari?"

Author:  iks [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:32 am ]
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Or:

Will Felipe Massa win a race next year?

Yes
No

Or:

Will Lewis Hamilton win a race next year?

Yes
No

Author:  Tobias [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:11 am ]
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only after the New Year I understand.

Author:  Gabriel [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:41 am ]
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Should be available for Christmas. I guess the season ends too late now.

Author:  micha [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:57 am ]
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iks wrote:
Or:

Will Felipe Massa win a race next year?

Yes
No

Or:

Will Lewis Hamilton win a race next year?

Yes
No



Easily combinable....

Wil Massa win next year and/or Will Hamilton win next year

yes/yes
yes/no
no/yes
no/no

Author:  Echti [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:22 am ]
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Scotty wrote:
Any idea when the official review will be available for purchase?


7th January 2013.

Author:  Tobias [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:28 pm ]
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Orthodox Christmas it is then :P

Author:  Omega [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:08 pm ]
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iks wrote:
Or:

Will Felipe Massa win a race next year?

Yes
No

Or:

Will Lewis Hamilton win a race next year?

Yes
No

How about "will F1 return to Austria in 2013?"

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