2008 F1 Italian Grand Prix (12 - 14 September)

thedoctor46 · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:52 pm

Hope we do get a nice race in Monza last year was not bad so hopefully better than that

Kimi needs to make a point at monza or he really is out of it, be surprised Massa was faster than him at monza. Just depends who is inbetween them as to weather he continues in the hunt or not.
What are the weather reports saying for this weekend? Wet qually would be coool.

F1_Fan_1993 · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:57 pm

Rubmifer wrote:

offcourse rain would be awesome, but I kinda doubt we'll see any.
Weather.com is predicting 60% chance of rain for all 3 days.

Can you give those weather forecast like you did at the last race please?

Rubmifer · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:06 pm

F1_Fan_1993 wrote:

Rubmifer wrote:

offcourse rain would be awesome, but I kinda doubt we'll see any.
Weather.com is predicting 60% chance of rain for all 3 days.

Can you give those weather forecast like you did at the last race please?

not likely

I did those weather forecasts for Belgium because I live in it. So I used our belgian institute, which is more likely to be accurate and specific instead of weather.com.
I suggest that an italian member perhaps could do the same.

SirVanhan · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:40 pm

I remember first time I went to Monza. Friday free practice during 1998 season, and the second session was wet. After that maybe only 2004 race, well the beginning

odetus · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:17 pm

Interesting race coming up, Kimi showed that he is back, but those 2 last laps were... yeah... Maybe it is another scrap between Kimi and Lewis.

Yaamboo · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:21 pm

Rubmifer wrote:

F1_Fan_1993 wrote:

Rubmifer wrote:

offcourse rain would be awesome, but I kinda doubt we'll see any.
Weather.com is predicting 60% chance of rain for all 3 days.

Can you give those weather forecast like you did at the last race please?

not likely

I did those weather forecasts for Belgium because I live in it. So I used our belgian institute, which is more likely to be accurate and specific instead of weather.com.
I suggest that an italian member perhaps could do the same.

http://www.meteoam.it/ <- that should be the correct institute...

F1_Fan_1993 · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:23 pm

Yaamboo wrote:

Rubmifer wrote:

F1_Fan_1993 wrote:

Rubmifer wrote:

offcourse rain would be awesome, but I kinda doubt we'll see any.
Weather.com is predicting 60% chance of rain for all 3 days.

Can you give those weather forecast like you did at the last race please?

not likely

I did those weather forecasts for Belgium because I live in it. So I used our belgian institute, which is more likely to be accurate and specific instead of weather.com.
I suggest that an italian member perhaps could do the same.

http://www.meteoam.it/ <- that should be the correct institute...

Thanks guys. Shame i don't understand the Language.

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:57 pm

Yaamboo wrote:

Monza

Francesc wrote:

Classic track, F1 wouldn't be the same without it

You must be kidding :whistling:

This track sucks :yuk:

No challenging corner, race ends in about 1 hour and very few possibilities for overtaking.

NVirkkula wrote:

mclaren2008 wrote:

Circuit the same as last year??

Very difficult circuit to pass on. Don't believe me?? The Hamilton pass last year is the only pass I've seen at Monza that's actually good since Mansell passing Senna in 1991.

Raikkonen will tell you how hard it is to pass.

Are you serious? There's been alot of overtaking at Monza on the latest version of the track. Especially in the first two chicanes. Last few years have been bad because of TC and braking assistant. These two systems helped the drivers to do pretty much optimum brakings and therefore outbraking another was rarely seen. This year it should be better as it has been proved in few other races already. I'm sure that this is going to be a legendary race. I hope that Ferrari takes 1-2 at their home event. :flag:

I can only remember Schumacher overtaking Hakkinen.

Ben wrote:

BMW should do well here. I seem to remember them being very strong last year.

Heidfeld was the fastest in last Monza's test, but I doubt they will challenge Ferraris and Mclarens.

Francesc · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:06 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

Yaamboo wrote:

Monza

Francesc wrote:

Classic track, F1 wouldn't be the same without it

You must be kidding :whistling:

This track sucks :yuk:

No challenging corner, race ends in about 1 hour and very few possibilities for overtaking.

The problem is not the track itself for the lenght of the race, and if you think Parabolica, Variante Ascari and Lesmos aren't challenging, you must don't know anything

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:19 pm

Francesc wrote:

Artur Craft wrote:

Yaamboo wrote:

Monza

Francesc wrote:

Classic track, F1 wouldn't be the same without it

You must be kidding :whistling:

This track sucks :yuk:

No challenging corner, race ends in about 1 hour and very few possibilities for overtaking.

The problem is not the track itself for the lenght of the race, and if you think Parabolica, Variante Ascari and Lesmos aren't challenging, you must don't know anything

Races must have about 300km distance, Monza has too long straights, so the space is faster covered.
And by your thinking, I do not know anything, cause these certainly aren't challenging corners imo.

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:21 pm

They get even more challenging because of the low downforce setting. Ascari is really a bitch to get right

Tobias · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:26 pm

coldtyre wrote:

They get even more challenging because of the low downforce setting. Ascari is really a bitch to get right

yes, it's amazing. Just ask Kimi on his pole lap in 2006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7Is1lKGDco

jdh · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:08 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

This track sucks :yuk:

No challenging corner, race ends in about 1 hour and very few possibilities for overtaking.

And the race will be even shorter soon if some of the team bosses get their way if that article is to be believed.

Rubmifer · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:13 pm

which article exactly? I can't seem to find anything in this thread.

jdh · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:18 pm

Rubmifer wrote:

which article exactly? I can't seem to find anything in this thread.

Was posted in the 2008 F1 discussion thread:

F1-Live.com wrote:

The new alliance of F1's ten teams, FOTA, is set to meet on Thursday in the Monza paddock, Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport reports.

Among the initial ideas to be discussed, the sports newspaper said, is the possible shortening of Grand Prix from their current 300kms.

"An hour and a half for a race is too long," said Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali. "We must aim to reduce the time, because often in the second half nothing happens.
"

Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo is to chair the Monza meeting, with Honda team boss Ross Brawn in charge of technical matters.

Also on the agenda is the inauguration of the Formula One Teams Association constitution, with all F1 chiefs due to sign up.

Fox · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:35 pm

Quote:

Previous winners:
2007: Fernando Alonso
2006: Michael Schumacher
2005: Jean-Pierre Montoya
2004: Rubens Barrichello
2003: Michael Schumacher
2002: Michael Schumacher
2001: Jean-Pierre Montoya
2000: Michael Schumacher
1999: Heinz-Harald Frentzen
1998: Michael Schumacher
1997: David Coulthard
1996: Michael Schumacher
1995: Johnny Herbert
1994: Damon Hill
1993: Damon Hill
1992: Ayrton Senna
1991: Nigel Mansell
1990: Ayrton Senna
=> 10 different winners in 17 years

Rubmifer · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:54 pm

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:52 pm

Juan Pablo in french

In Britain he could be called John Paul

jdh wrote:

Rubmifer wrote:

which article exactly? I can't seem to find anything in this thread.

Was posted in the 2008 F1 discussion thread:

F1-Live.com wrote:

The new alliance of F1's ten teams, FOTA, is set to meet on Thursday in the Monza paddock, Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport reports.

Among the initial ideas to be discussed, the sports newspaper said, is the possible shortening of Grand Prix from their current 300kms.

"An hour and a half for a race is too long," said Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali. "We must aim to reduce the time, because often in the second half nothing happens.
"

Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo is to chair the Monza meeting, with Honda team boss Ross Brawn in charge of technical matters.

Also on the agenda is the inauguration of the Formula One Teams Association constitution, with all F1 chiefs due to sign up.

You see, is not only Bernie who wants to screw F1.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:08 am

deggis wrote:

coldtyre wrote:

The bumps didn't do anything, he got airborne by aerodynamics. Then the grass helped flipping the car but once you're 10 feet in the air there's nothing much to do to help lol

I meant the bumps on the grass, not on the track.

Remember Glock's "jump" in Australia? I bet that bump has been wiped out.

I did not think back then it needs improvement (except maybe flattening the grass area, not a big job anyway), but often someone presses the panic button and does something extreme precautionary changes like paving the whole area around the chicane (following current track design trend) and that would suck.

It's probably a matter of time when for example Curva Grande run-off gets paved Ã¡ la Pouhon :yuk:

I don't think F1 cars will go airbourne even if they hit exactly the same bump in exactly the same way, it's a prototype issue, not anything to do with F1.
I remember...2004 (?) A Jordan lost it on entry to the chicane in almost the same manner and survived on the ground to be able to collide with a Minardi!
Also if F1 cars had a similar defect that Force India would've gone flying after getting a tiny bit of air at Silverstone!

markwebber · PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:18 am

Monza's a beautiful track.

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