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I'm a little bit puzzled by these license points now that Verstappen is in the news with it. How come Maldonado crashes into everybody and he doesn't get any penalty points? When does a driver get penalty points and when not?

It's a bit silly to get penalty points for ignoring blue flags and (perhaps) not for causing crashes every other weekend.

because that's called common sense and the stewards never seem to have a lot of it

Maldonado's on six I think. He's had some taken off because they expired.

the points for that Monaco incident should've been awarded to Grosjean, as he left no reaction time or space Verstappen

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I'm not sure how you figure that considering it was proved that Grosjean braked at an almost identical spot compared to previous laps.

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I was tricked by the onboard so

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How does this work, do they carry to the next season?

Common sense dictates they should, or you'd have some strange end-of-season shenanigans.

Points last for a year.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wolff ... up-change/

Lol funny how it goes when their golden boy is a little bit threatened.

Rosberg -> Renault 2017. You read it here first.

Wolff is itching to change Rosberg with Bottas

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I've been suggesting this for a few years. Bottas is a Wolff protegee after-all.

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Would be nice but he wants to look a bit closer at the common denominator in all these team disputes that have happened over the years for the likely cause, not just sack Rosberg cos he's a tosser.

It's too easy to blame Lewis, if that's what you're suggesting? Both drivers have caused intra-team challenges. One consistently delivers whereas the other almost lost to a Ferrari this year.

As for the over the years bit, again it's too easy to point the finger at Lewis. It too conveniently skirts around different things. Against Alonso, both were to blame. Against Button, Whitmarsh was to blame for mismanaging Lewis after Ron's 'removal'.

Should Lewis leave then he'd win with the next team he'd join. Rosberg on the other hand probably wouldn't.

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No, only Mercedes is capable of winning, maybe Ferrari as well. Any other team he'd go to would be a failure and have people questioning "Has Hamilton lost it?". No, he is still as good or bad as before, he's just in a worse car.

So like 2009 and 2013 then?

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Lewis is the common denominator, that's what I'm suggesting, where he was led or was leading is kind of beside the point if you're only looking at the route cause.

I guess we'll only really know if/when he moves to another team, what's that saying? Twice is coincidence, three times a pattern...

Yes and no. Like I said, it is all too easy to look at Lewis and call him out as the blame / common denominator while ignoring everything else that goes on around said person. We could also say Mercedes is the common denominator, or tyres, or motorsport. Let's remember that in 2014 the issues started with Rosberg in Bahrain, followed up by Lewis in Spain, then Rosberg again in Monaco. Is Lewis a common denominator or are we merely overlooking some coincidence?

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what about them? In 2009 the McLaren was terrible, but they improved the car and he could win a few.
Mercedes 2010-2012 was not yet good enough, the fact that one Michael Schumacher couldn't do anything good shows that. You can't say he wasn't capable of winning. And yet everyone asked if he wasn't too old, if the lack of testing hurt him, and basicly if he had lost it. In 2013 Hamilton joined and the car was improving, I don't think that has anything to do with Hamilton being there. And Rosberg had already won 3 races before Hamilton had his first. So what's your point?

In 2014 with new regulations and engines, the Mercedes was best of everyone and he beat Rosberg.

I think it's about 80% car, and 20% input of the driver. I don't know yet how 2016 will look, but put Hamilton in any other 2014 or 2015 car and he will question if he shouldn't retire.

It is well recognized that in 2009 Lewis helped develop a pig of a car into a winner, despite spending the first half of the year fighting in the midfield. And then in 2013 when the world thought he'd made a poor decision to go to a team that wasn't an established winner nor a regular front runner, he proved his quality, proved his doubters wrong and won a race. The 2013 was better than previous years but it still wasn't great and loved chewing up its tyres.

The point being is that Nico needs almost perfection on his side to win and I feel that Mercedes is the only team that can offer him that. Whereas Lewis can move to another team and help build them into a winner.

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