2013 Abu Dhabi GP

Shaddix · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:45 pm

FIA wrote:

Car eighteen was at the end of his stint with worn tyres and was fully committed to the turn as car three exited the pits. Telemetry confirms that car three was significantly faster, on option tyres, and had the advantage throughout the sequence.

Great explenation from the stewards. If only Mansell had known during Monaco 92 that you can cut corners to overtake if you're in fresher tyres...

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:48 pm

Track limits debate is just so frustrating as it'll only get worse. Just stop them from having the option!

At least COTA is a cool track

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:50 pm

kals wrote:

There is one constant in both of those pictures NVirkkula

No there isn't if you ask from the FIA.

Seriously though, I agree with you and alex1369 about this overtaking case. It is disgraceful to see something like that happen. Alonso's move is not that, but the actions that FIA took on it and for the other similar cases in the past. Grosjean was unfairly penalized in Hungary while Fernando walks away from it. FIA should have been faster on the call today and tell Ferrari to give the position back. Alonso would still have finished on the same spot and there wouldn't be public outrage at all.

gd49 · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:51 pm

Shaddix wrote:

FIA wrote:

Car eighteen was at the end of his stint with worn tyres and was fully committed to the turn as car three exited the pits. Telemetry confirms that car three was significantly faster, on option tyres, and had the advantage throughout the sequence.

Great explenation from the stewards. If only Mansell had known during Monaco 92 that you van cut corners to overtake if you're in fresher tyres...

That's a terrible terrible ruling. Basically they're saying that if you know your car is faster than the one in front, then running off the track to get past is OK. Cannot understand the logic of that.

RtN · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:59 pm

Alonso is in hospital.

Schumifan · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:59 pm

Shaddix wrote:

FIA wrote:

Car eighteen was at the end of his stint with worn tyres and was fully committed to the turn as car three exited the pits. Telemetry confirms that car three was significantly faster, on option tyres, and had the advantage throughout the sequence.

Great explenation from the stewards. If only Mansell had known during Monaco 92 that you van cut corners to overtake if you're in fresher tyres...

That's a hilariously terrible justification.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:04 pm

Jev says that what Alonso did was right.

De Cesaris fan · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:13 pm

I don't actually have much of a problem with Alonso's move. I don't have any problem with Grosjean's move. What I do have a problem with is that one is considered fair and the other was a penalty.

I hate to be part of the 'FIA favours Ferrari lolz' group, but amazing how both verdicts favoured them yet again.

Did I mention that the new circuits are awful? Fine, have some run off, but how about putting some grass between the track and the run off? Have some gravel? Have less run off because it's perfectly acceptable at Singapore and Valencia? *sigh*

Mattzel89 · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:44 pm

Quote:

Sebastian Vettel has been given the all-clear by the FIA for his post-race donut celebrations in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

woooo

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:19 pm

Alonso's hit with the kerb was 25g, set the alarm off with kerbs don't usually do.

nightflight · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:25 pm

Mattzel89 wrote:

Quote:

Sebastian Vettel has been given the all-clear by the FIA for his post-race donut celebrations in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

woooo

These sick bastards... :lol:

Schumifan · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:02 pm

Mattzel89 wrote:

Quote:

Sebastian Vettel has been given the all-clear by the FIA for his post-race donut celebrations in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

woooo

Hope that sets a precedent, donuts every race pls

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:09 pm

Just worked out that even if he didn't take part in the first 10 races, Vettel would still be P3 in the championship.

Obviously there would be some points changes and it wouldn't happen like that [to appease pedants], but just to show how good he's been.

farruquito · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:28 pm

Alonso was side by side with Vergne when leaving the pits on a high speed area, having no space. While in Hungary this year, Grosjean coming from the back (and from the back DOES NOT MEAN side by side) overtook Massa by using off track. It is quite a different situation. Even Vergne thinks stewards were right http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111117

De Cesaris fan · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:45 pm

I fail to see how Grosjean was not side by side with Massa, or how Alonso wasn't behind Vergne exiting the pits...

aerogi · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:46 pm

Quote:

Vergne praised Alonso for his actions and said they prevented the possibility of a big accident

"It was a racing incident and if he had not gone on the outside [of the track] like he did, we would have had a big crash," Vergne told AUTOSPORT.

"It was high-speed, and what he did was right. Actually, I am really happy he did that otherwise we would have had an accident, so yes, definitely [the stewards made the right decision]."

alex1369 · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:47 pm

Schumifan wrote:

Mattzel89 wrote:

Quote:

Sebastian Vettel has been given the all-clear by the FIA for his post-race donut celebrations in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

woooo

Hope that sets a precedent, donuts every race pls

Even that will become quickly boring, specially when only Vettel is doing it...
It think others dont have something to celebrate...

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:02 pm

I can't be mad at any pass that involves popping a wheelie and still being able to pull it off!

Race wasn't so bad this weekend, was happy enough anyway, just enough action to make it worth watching, didn't get the sinking feeling of dullness we've had for the past few weeks though.

Track is appalling though. Even with a mile long straight and DRS the cars weren't able to make any passes before the tyre life came into play (First 10/15 laps or so)
Awful place, plz bulldoze soon.

kals · PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:12 pm

farruquito wrote:

Alonso was side by side with Vergne when leaving the pits on a high speed area, having no space. While in Hungary this year, Grosjean coming from the back (and from the back DOES NOT MEAN side by side) overtook Massa by using off track. It is quite a different situation.

Did you look at the screenshots of both these incidents you're referring to before posting this? Neither support your suggestion.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:58 am

I had that too. Angle of the sun meant that I couldn't tell which car was which. Ditto with the Mercs & Ferrari.

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