After getting some sleep and reading a bit through the Thread again I have to say Rain, Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve and TBK is a good Mixture to have Fun.
Anyone?
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| Author: | RtN [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
New rule; if one driver says it's okay to race, they race. If the other 23 don't like it, they can ask Prost what to do. |
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| Author: | ellis [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
RtN wrote: New rule; if one driver says it's okay to race, they race. If the other 23 don't like it, they can ask Prost what to do. Well I think we all agree that those red flag conditions we got to were not OK. It would have been suicidal to run them there. But then under that idea, it'd only take 1 jackass to say "nah it's fine" and then suddenly we have to race. And if the other 23 parked because it was rightly ridiculous, then the shit storm that'd happen from the people who think that this rule is a good idea would be insane. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
A better rule is if the safety car is deployed because of heavy rain, you red flag the race immediately. They wasted 5 laps before they red flagged it when it was obvious there would be no restart for a while. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:14 am ] |
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I don't believe that a single driver was in favour of racing under the conditions that there were during and after the cloudburst. The race director could have authority to call force majeure if circumstances are as extreme as that. Another new rule; the Safety Car shall be on track at any one time for 5 laps maximum. After 5 laps, the race should either be restarted or red flagged. |
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| Author: | Fox [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
After getting some sleep and reading a bit through the Thread again I have to say Rain, Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve and TBK is a good Mixture to have Fun. Anyone? viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4454
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| Author: | cambridge [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
it's been a great race but to be honest i cant believe button has got away with it. I mean, Alonso has been penalized a few races back after having ruined his wing and his race for "unecessary contact" or something like that. Button yesterday took out Hamilton on the straight, took out Alonso in a chicane, both cases was obviously his fault, and no penalties, nothing. FIA's decisions have always been a mistery to me. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:22 am ] |
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Canoey Kobayashi is still so full of win. And yes, max. 5 laps safety car. Because even if you red flag the race, they 'only' need a 10 minute warning rather than waste racing laps. Yesterday, there were too many laps after the red flag period too. I'd say we lost about 10 laps of racing. Also, the marshals were disappointing. Seemed to take ages to clear Lewis' car whilst we nearly saw one of them killed when he fell over - twice. @  |
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| Author: | Bleu [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:35 am ] |
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Lewis parked it very near to the place where there was a pocket where car can easily be pushed, but they somehow needed truck to move it. At Monaco sometimes I have seen track marshals with similar jacks as they have in the pit lane, so they can move cars quite easily even if it has lost wheel(s). Those would be needed for other circuits as well. |
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| Author: | cambridge [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:35 am ] |
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phil1993 wrote: @ where can i find it? |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:50 am ] |
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http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... ent-47.pdf |
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| Author: | Evenstar [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:01 pm ] |
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Amazing race. Well worth that agonising two hour wait lol |
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| Author: | ellis [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:07 pm ] |
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Bleu wrote: Lewis parked it very near to the place where there was a pocket where car can easily be pushed, but they somehow needed truck to move it. At Monaco sometimes I have seen track marshals with similar jacks as they have in the pit lane, so they can move cars quite easily even if it has lost wheel(s). Those would be needed for other circuits as well. You can't really push a car with collapsed rear suspension. And if Lewis was going to park the car, there was a run off (which Heidfeld went down) which he should have used. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
Lewis believed he only had a puncture. The team told him the suspension was broken - it was actually just the wishbone - and told him to stop, which he did within 6 seconds. I believe he was beyond the Turn 4 run-off by the time he was informed to stop the car |
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| Author: | cambridge [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:44 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_media/Documents/can-document-47.pdf ill tell you what: to me they should be all "racing accident" and i have no problem with it, but using the FIA point of view, if you look at the alonso/button crash from the rear wing of the car infront you can clearly see button way beyond alonso, going on the wet to brake, missing the braking point and then hitting alonso on his rear wheel with his front wheel. Using FIA criteria i've never seen a car being hit in his rear wheel being blamed for a crash cause, as they say, car in front have the line. I'm totally ok with the decision from my point of view but at FIA they keep changing their mind race after race, as far as i can remember. |
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| Author: | caio89 [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
sportal.de reports that Karthikeyan has been given a 20 seconds penalty for cutting the chicane but I haven't found confirmation on any other site so far. Source (in German) Edit: On Formula1.com the race result has been updated, Karthikeyan falls back to P17. http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2011/857/ |
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| Author: | cookie [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:48 pm ] |
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caio89 wrote: sportal.de reports that Karthikeyan has been given a 20 seconds penalty for cutting the chicane but I haven't found confirmation on any other site so far. correct, dropped to P17. have you checked this tiny site: http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2011/857/ |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 7 Grand Prix du Canada |
Here's some of the stuff we didn't see in the race - Kobayashi wide, Rosberg's wing flying off and what happened to Pastor [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qUkjg48YAU[/youtubeidiot] |
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| Author: | Echti [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:23 pm ] |
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Those incidents were pretty spectacular, shame that FOM did not show them. |
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| Author: | Shaddix [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:25 pm ] |
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how did they manage to miss the Rosberg incident? |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:27 pm ] |
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Too focused on the fight for the lead. |
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