2017 F1 Random Discussion Thread

RtN · PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:05 am

Charlie's job is race director, not technical director - he used to be technical director until he was made race director 20 years ago. It is the technical director who identifies possible breaches during scrutineering and passes them to the stewards for consideration.

I don't know why it is Charlie who provides technical directives and not Jo Bauer, but it is the usual way arguments over technical rule interpretations are sorted out. Otherwise there would be several teams and parts flagged each weekend which would have to go to the stewards (and then probably to the FIA's Appeal Court afterwards).

webbsy · PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:18 am

Ahh thanks for pointing that out to me about Charlie. So the teams should be contacting Jo Bauer then and then he should be saying its either legal or not, when teams have asked him directly if something is legal.

micha · PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:44 am

ptclaus98 wrote:

But you guys have Max now

Thank god! A bigger difference than night and day.

I'm still expecting Albers and Ralf S. to come out and announce they're a couple.

Mika Kimi · PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:03 am

Well, it is Valentines Day so you never know.

Poor Sutil though...

RtN · PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:36 pm

webbsy wrote:

Ahh thanks for pointing that out to me about Charlie. So the teams should be contacting Jo Bauer then and then he should be saying its either legal or not, when teams have asked him directly if something is legal.

Well, that's the thing. The process is set up so that Charlie is the one who mediates on the grey areas of the rulebook outside of race weekends.

Why it isn't Jo Bauer is beyond me. Maybe the teams wanted Charlie in that role instead of Bauer.

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Sutil is still with the girlfriend he had when he finished up in F1. Considering it's been two and a half years, I doubt she's a beard - he's been doing nothing so there's nothing to hang around for on her end in terms of prestige, money or publicity.

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:07 am

webbsy wrote:

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/18675878/fia-issue-clarification-trick-suspensions-ferrari-fails-find-unanimous-support

Spoiler:

So....the sports governing body, the ones who set and make the rules, and the guy whose sole purpose is to oversee and comment on the implementation of the rules.....leaves it up to race stewards who ARE NOT the ones who write the rules to interpret whether the teams are in contravention of the rules....

All the while the stuff that the man who is responsible for the rules says is basically just his own personal opinion and not actually anything binding about the very rules that he is supposed to be in charge of????

I know this has been the case for bloody ages but really when you think about Charlie Whitings opinions actually carry the same weight as any one of us self proclaimed experts on this forum.

I read as "let`s wait until the teams shows their true speed until we try to impose any car changes that would make for another boring season. But if anything is then banned, don`t say I didn`t told you so."

Also regulations are very important nowadays, anything should be decided in a big round table with all the FIA directors or something.

Diageo · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:48 pm

First shots of the new McLaren? Or just a very nice rendering

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:18 pm

looking good, need more orange

Neil · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:31 pm

Diageo wrote:

First shots of the new McLaren? Or just a very nice rendering

Where were they posted?

Tobias · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:52 pm

lines looking good. And good to have the rear wing back in a decent dimension (pre 2009).

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:25 pm

Nope:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/831958659517317126[/tweet]

Seems to have been posted originally by a graphic design studio that McLaren have allegedly worked with in the past:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RealtimeUK/status/831900567941287936[/tweet]

Of course, because someone posted a thought about an F1 livery, we have a Sean Bull of it...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/seanbulldesign/status/831942495034552322[/tweet]

(Sorry, I'm really over Sean Bull renders now...)

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:09 pm

I had already seen such livery prediction on a youtube video, from a week ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EtwtzXioE8

Still on Mclaren, I read that the new boss was quoted, by Marca, saying: "We won't win any race this year"

krag · PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:10 pm

According to AMuS, Toro Rosso will unveil completely new livery this season (at last !)

webbsy · PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:00 am

Gee the talk coming out from McLaren and Honda surrounding the engine doesn't really sound all that inspiring.

Quote:

"The concept is completely different," he said. "It's very high risk, we don't know a lot of things about that new concept.

"We know it will give us a performance advantage but the biggest risk is whether we can realise that potential this year."

Hasn't hit the track yet so don't know what it will be like, but talk like that from the big boss of Honda doesn't really ring of confidence.

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/186 ... -high-risk

Fabs · PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:49 pm

pray, I don't want Stoffel DNF'ing all season long.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:53 pm

just imagine Stoffel coming to a great win at Monaco, dominant aswell and the engine goes kaputt at the swimming pool on the final lap, leaving a trail of oil and smoke and creating mayhem

kals · PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:17 pm

Half the time you want crazy engine blow ups with plumes of smoke which McLaren are now saying could happen and yet now there are cries of "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

You lot need to make up your mind.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:19 pm

LucasWheldon wrote:

just imagine Stoffel coming to a great win at Monaco, dominant aswell and the engine goes kaputt at the swimming pool on the final lap, leaving a trail of oil and smoke and creating mayhem

OT but the more I'm watching this classic F1 stream in the off season, the more I think Monaco would be a pretty decent track if they didn't have to go around that freaking swimming pool....

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:25 pm

kals wrote:

Half the time you want crazy engine blow ups with plumes of smoke which McLaren are now saying could happen and yet now there are cries of "NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

You lot need to make up your mind.

I'm always supporting less than 10 cars finishing the race

survival at its best

kals · PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:27 pm

codename_47 wrote:

LucasWheldon wrote:

just imagine Stoffel coming to a great win at Monaco, dominant aswell and the engine goes kaputt at the swimming pool on the final lap, leaving a trail of oil and smoke and creating mayhem

OT but the more I'm watching this classic F1 stream in the off season, the more I think Monaco would be a pretty decent track if they didn't have to go around that freaking swimming pool....

So add a Stadium Trucks style ramp then?

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