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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:12 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:19 pm 
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Gaara wrote:
Looks like a modern day F1 track


Corrected :p

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No, they raped turn 1. I recognise it for all the years of Grand Prix Legends which is very cool.

But yeah, Paul Ricard suddenly doesn't seem like a bad track anymore. They will have to solve the 'track limits' bs. Bring at leaast a small strip of gravel back which indicates track limits.

Otherwise, we would have something like suzuka last year. Hamilton faster then Rosberg but can't get really close to overtake. He could literally test the grip levels, run wide several times and loose zero time. If there were gravel traps, Hamilton wouls not have won that day.

At least it isnt a Spa 2008 (?) 'use all the asphalt you can find'- fest....


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I wish they leave at least a tiny bit a grass or gravel outside the turns. Otherwise it's another Abu Dhabi for me.
Well, at least there are some trees inside and outside the track. I hate India, Korea and Bahrain...and Abu Dhabi, Turkey and Austin how barren they look. So at least the location is more atmospheric than with previous newcomers.


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I get why they want to run through the stadium instead of through peraltada, I just don't get why they have to put some stupid crappy hairpin in there when they could/should have just left it as the simple left hander it was when Champcar ran though there.



There was always the fiddly little chicane they ran before peraltada the last few years:


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The printer for the Russian Grand Prix tickets :)
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Pirelli will get very conservative and choose mediums and hards for Mexico, then nothing will happen

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Too much tarmac runoff. #needsmoregravel

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Has Nico ever overtaken Lewis on track?

Malaysia 2013.


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JJ wrote:
I wish they leave at least a tiny bit a grass or gravel outside the turns. Otherwise it's another Abu Dhabi for me.
Well, at least there are some trees inside and outside the track. I hate India, Korea and Bahrain...and Abu Dhabi, Turkey and Austin how barren they look. So at least the location is more atmospheric than with previous newcomers.


I liked Korea, since it as least had some character. Not the optics, you are right there. And also not regarding the layout features (two long straits, some fast corners and some slow corners, like all the Tielke tracks), but at least they came up with a new way of sorting these features, by putting the long straits naxt to each other and making the rest of the track slow.

Yes, I am easy to satisfy these days... which is a good way to prove how shitty tracks have become.


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The printer for the Russian Grand Prix tickets :)
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The printer for the Russian Grand Prix tickets :)
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did you pay to see that?



No, it's Russia. He paid for the right to leave.

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but I'm sure he wouldn't want to leave motherland, as long the great leader is there

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Speedworx wrote:
Too much tarmac runoff. #needsmoregravel

I keep asking this question but never had a definite answer: who decides to do the modifications tracks to remove gravel pits?

Let's take the Parabolica example. There is gravel at a corner; then suddenly some year they remove it.

This kind of construction works costs a lot of money. Nobody will just do it for the sake of it.

So who does that? The track only to look more fancy? Is it requested by the major series teams who are tired of damaging cars? By associations of club drivers who use the track all year round and want it to become more forgiving? Is it mandatory by FIA for the track to keep its FIA grade? Are track officials liable and want to cover their ass as much as possible in case someone crashes and dies (like: "look at all the works we did to prevent that, we don't slack off on safety on this track")? What the fuck is going on really?

Is there a risk analysis performed on each corner to determine which require such a run-off? I'd be happy to have the look at the line of thinking that leads to tarmac outside a slow hairpin like La Source. Fast corners I get it, but sometimes it's just ridiculous.


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coldtyre wrote:
Speedworx wrote:
Too much tarmac runoff. #needsmoregravel

I keep asking this question but never had a definite answer: who decides to do the modifications tracks to remove gravel pits?

Let's take the Parabolica example. There is gravel at a corner; then suddenly some year they remove it.

This kind of construction works costs a lot of money. Nobody will just do it for the sake of it.

So who does that? The track only to look more fancy? Is it requested by the major series teams who are tired of damaging cars? By associations of club drivers who use the track all year round and want it to become more forgiving? Is it mandatory by FIA for the track to keep its FIA grade? Are track officials liable and want to cover their ass as much as possible in case someone crashes and dies (like: "look at all the works we did to prevent that, we don't slack off on safety on this track")? What the fuck is going on really?

Is there a risk analysis performed on each corner to determine which require such a run-off? I'd be happy to have the look at the line of thinking that leads to tarmac outside a slow hairpin like La Source. Fast corners I get it, but sometimes it's just ridiculous.

Is it mandatory (by FIA) for the track to keep its FIA grade? Yes. When they disfigured the Parabolica for instance they said that it was necessary to keep the bike racing events. The bike associations also are the reason that the kerbs on the exit of a corner are flat, as Alex Wurz said.


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I'll just leave this here...


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Just checked recent ratings...jeez, what a crappy season so far.
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