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Magny-Cours 2002 was a perfect example of impartial and consistent judgement. Today they're fucked up either way when the penalties are thrown at the behest of a roulette ball.

F1 has ALWAYS being that kind of show. Remember Japan 1989. Remember qualifying at Monza 2006.

BTW, in Russia 2014, Rosberg had the inside to Lewis, he locked up and cut the first corner. The team ORDERED him to give Lewis the position back. At 0:38 ->

I thought they would only issue a penalty if a driver cuts the corner more than one time, not in the first time already

we can also guess FIA did that to compensate the penalties that Verstapped should had been issued but he didn't

anyway the kid is doing different from everybody and he took a shot, like Schumacher did many many times, too bad it didn't worked out right

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Lots of #nastyhombres ITT

But seriously, the way the tracks are now, being a steward is a useless thankless position. Nobody could keep up with the amount of drivers-crossing-lines-they-shouldn't-cross incidents every lap and keep everyone here happy. The only way this ever worked was with the track handing out the penalty instantly through a trip through the gravel or broken suspension from a ripple strip. As long as they continue to race in parking lots with lines painted on them this will be the way it is.

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But that would imply that the FIA are going back to old technology. Catch fencing for the win! would stop every fucker from even thinking about dropping a wheel off the kerb lol.

Seriously I actually think with the growing chorus of commentators and driver's saying there should be gravel that there might just be a small chance that the FIA bring it back in some capacity...but this being the FIA common sense doesn't apply to them.

Hahahaha

Now what penalty is he going to get for brining the sport into disrepute? Telling the race director to fuck off over team radio knowing that it would be heard? Yes I know it is what we all want to do but every driver knows that everything they say is heard and can be broad casted.

The correct result.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Lewis and his fanboys are hypocritically funny. Last year, Nico won the last three races and Lewis, "finished where he needed to", to win the championship, with three second places. If you win the championship, you win it.

The three races Nico won at the end of 2015 were all dead rubbers as Lewis had sealed the championship in Austin. But anyway, Nico is doing what he needs to (like you say).

Who is saying F1 is boring? Podium positions are never known and change hands multiple times during and (hours) after the race. Talk about unpredictability.

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Well at least the FIA has set their precedent with those two penalties. Now let's hope they maintain some consistency moving forward. Or we'll just have penalties being handed out if drivers moan about it enough.

Hahaha, vettel was always complaining to enforce the rules for defending harder and now he is the first to get a penalty for it. I hope he shuts up now with all the complaining and focuses on driving better. Every team radio he just whines like a kid who doesn't get what he wants. Ricciardo speaks his mind too but never whines and asks for drivers to just give a position. He's the example of a fair hard racer and having good entertaining feedback on the radio.

What a shit show. The penalties are the correct ones at least. I do find it hilarious that seb is the first driver to get pinged for a manoeuvre he has been so vocal about. If he calmed his shit a bit then maybe he'd have a clearer head when it comes to making on track decisions.

Seb has turned into a real hot head this year. If he wasn't so blinded by the red mist, he could've stayed wide and let Ricciardo overshoot the corner handing the position back to Seb. However I think he'd decided that he wasn't going to let Ricciardo get by him under any circumstances since he'd never have been in that position to begin with if Verstappen had yielded the position.

Lewis literally said the same thing on the podium and meant in genuinely (that'd he'd be racing like Nico in the same situation) and got blasted for it...

I honestly think the drivers give less of a shit about what people think than most people who watch
They'll probably be all sitting on a private jet drinking champagne out of various boots and laughing at it all for getting so mad about their on track racing.

Even Charlie Whiting is probably all "yeah, and you're a prick too, Sebastien" with a smirk on his face behind closed doors, though he'll probably have to give him a fine officially because thems the rules.

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best post race since Suzuka 1989 haha

imagine if they had live team radio back then, Senna would had said rude things about that old french that ran the sport

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Then said driver who pushes the other driver off should either get a 10 second stop go penalty or be excluded from the race.

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Stop go for causing the other driver to take a trip through the gravel and exclusion if the other driver is out of the race.

Oh, I just had a neat idea, how ever many seconds the driver who got pushes wide looses, the driver who had him off has the same amount of time added to his race. If the driver who got pushed wide looses places then an additional 5 seconds added to the driver who pushed him off for every place they loose.

Would be pretty easy to judge too, just look at the difference in lap time. Then message on the screen.

Eg. Driver X hung driver Y out on the kerb, driver Y lost 6.5 seconds that lap plus 1 place, driver X gets 11.5 seconds added to race time. Or if driver Y looses 3 places driver X gets 21.5 seconds added to time.

Is it too arrogant to like my own idea? haha

If gravel trap run-offs were to be reintroduced, the job of the race director would be to make it clear to all the drivers at the briefing that crowding a driver beyond the edge of the track would be treated from that point onwards as a much more serious offence with virtually zero tolerance.

It is the sort of thing that is very easy to clamp down upon if the FIA has the will to do so.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Everybody gets a penalty! Except #blessed

I'm getting more and more the feeling that the current crop of drivers don't like to fight for their spot. Just listen to Vettel crying like a little bitch because Massa didn't move over for him while actually fighting for position.

And then there's Max Verstappen. Someone who actually fights for every inch. Logical that the rest doesn't like that. But in all honesty, while his actions are on and even over the edge I don't think its that dangerous perse. The kid eat, sleeps and breaths racing and he's not dumb. When he dives in a gap or shuts the door I'm sure he knows the other guy can anticipate to that to avoid collision.

In actual racing you sometimes miss a corner while in an intense fight. In the good old days you'd either drive trough the gravel or, well shit, you gained some advantage by cutting. The guy behind regrouped and tried again a few corners or laps later. They didn't start crying like a little girl.

I'd say Let them race as long as there isn't blatant disregard for human life. And if anyone in the current field cannot handle that: GTFO!!!